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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:53 am
by Malcolm
TPRJones wrote:Originally from Chechnya, but living in the United States since five years, Tamerlan says: "I don't have a single American friend, I don't understand them."
Tamerlan says he doesn't drink or smoke anymore: "God said no alcohol." A muslim, he says: "There are no values anymore," and worries that "people can't control themselves."
So go back to Chechnya if America sucks so much. Let me know how that Russian democracy over there is working out.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:24 pm
by TheCatt
On CNN right now:
Uncle: Suspects are 'losers'
No context for that whatsoever, but a nice contrast to their dad's crazy.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:28 pm
by Troy
TheCatt wrote:On CNN right now:
Uncle: Suspects are 'losers'
No context for that whatsoever, but a nice contrast to their dad's crazy.
Love the Uncle. Watch his presser.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:51 pm
by Leisher
A very recent shot of Boston. Crazy.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:16 pm
by Troy
The internet showed me a pic of dead #1 already. It was not pretty.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:30 pm
by Malcolm
Troy wrote:The internet showed me a pic of dead #1 already. It was not pretty.
Triggering a potential international manhunt will do that to you.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:19 pm
by Leisher
Troy wrote:The internet showed me a pic of dead #1 already. It was not pretty.
Post the link.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:10 pm
by Troy
Gimmie an email address over a pm. Links all dead.
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:42 pm
by Malcolm
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:57 pm
by Troy
Not looking too hot, chief.
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:32 pm
by Malcolm
He is apparently alive.
United States Senators Lindsey Graham and John McCain suggested that Tsarnaev, a U.S. citizen, should be tried as an unlawful enemy combatant rather than as a criminal, potentially preventing him from obtaining counsel. Alan Dershowitz said that the senators' suggestion "show[ed] absolute ignorance of the law."
Senators don't know the law? There's a shock. Kind of a fucking stupid statement since every terrorist organization on the planet has denied knowing these dudes. I guess "unlawful enemy combatant" is anyone that causes enough damage and emotional distress and generates enough press coverage.
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:33 pm
by GORDON
I don't want to live on this planet any more.
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:31 pm
by TPRJones
Leave it to a US Congressman to say something so vile as to make you feel even the tiniest twinge of sympathy for this evil fuck.
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:39 pm
by Malcolm
Let the blame game begin.
Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and a former FBI agent, defended the bureau's work. "They had information from a foreign intelligence service that they were concerned about his [Tamerlan Tsarnaev] possible radicalization," he said on the NBC's Meet the Press. "The FBI did their due diligence and did a very thorough job of trying to run that down, and then asked for some more help from that intelligence service to try to get further clarification, and unfortunately that intelligence service stopped cooperating." Rogers did not identify the intelligence agency.
It's always someone else's fault.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:21 pm
by Malcolm
Gods moves in mysterious ways.
I realize that many people will see this tragic event as evidence against God's existence. But the reality is that in order for thousands of people to feel relief and joy, some had to feel unspeakable pain and heartache. This is the hard part to understand.
I'm sure the dudes who got killed in the blast can peacefully decompose in the ground now, knowing that their lives got arbitrary taken in the name of bringing relief to others. Granted, that relief wouldn't have been needed if the bombs hadn't gone off, and I kind of wonder where the fuck god was then. Guess it's beyond his power to disable them before they exploded, but hey, joy afterwards, right?
We want God to prevent the pain and heartache, but it has to be part of the equation. Without pain and suffering, we could never experience joy to its fullest extent. Without war, we couldn't fully appreciate peace.
That's like saying you'll never appreciate not being kicked in the balls for ten minutes straight unless you get kicked in the balls for ten minutes straight on a regular basis. This has to be one of those religious psychos that would whip himself during the Dark Ages so that god would take away the plague.
Your god seems like a mean motherfucker if he only knows how to bring about joy by taking shit away from you.
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:47 pm
by GORDON
Religion is a hell of a racket, aint it? The worse your life is, the greater evidence there is of god. Or, the better your life is, the greater evidence there is of god... well, either way, put a little something in the collection plate to help grease your way into paradise in the afterlife.
"The first holy man was the first scoundrel who met the first fool."
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:53 pm
by TPRJones
The thing you are missing is that to people like this, life here on earth is nothing. The eternal hereafter is all that matters, and life here on earth is just your little thing to do to determine where you go for that. To him your kid dying in the blast is good news for you, if the child was a good Christian and is now in heaven and done with this meaningless life on earth. And if your child was not a good Christian, then who cares about the dead kid since he was doomed to damnation anyway.
Pretty fucked up, IMO, but I know the type all too well.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:30 pm
by Malcolm
The thing you are missing is that to people like this, life here on earth is nothing.
No. Because otherwise they'd be going around actively murdering people to get them out of the perceived hell this plane is, or just kill themselves. But since that requires things like effort, sacrifice, and having faith even in the face of great opposition, they tend to back off. Which is good, because when religious nut cases don't back off, they generally take other people down with them.
I've seen people put 100% belief in religion when they can't figure out how the unconscious parts of their psyche really operate. They need something to cope with that disconnect, and a supreme, omnipotent being looks like a safe bet. To paraphrase Dave Mustaine of Megadeth, "I'd tried everything else except god, so I figured I'd try that." Same shit with Brian "Head" Welch of Korn and Jerry Only of the Misfits. I've personally seen people I know fall into the same powerless feedback loop.
Why do I call it powerless? Because every religious group requires you to submit and surrender your choice to their belief system, mainly because some higher powers and their representatives in this reality know better than you. They've all got a weird tendency to stare at unbelievers like they need to be saved.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:11 pm
by TPRJones
No. Because otherwise they'd be going around actively murdering people to get them out of the perceived hell this plane is, or just kill themselves.
Ah, but that would be a sin and endanger their mortal souls. You have to wait and hope you are lucky enough to be killed through the normal course of events.
Although killing heathens is sometimes okay. They aren't really people, and thus killing them is not a sin.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:23 pm
by Malcolm
I assume we're going on about Christianity here, so I'll tailor my comments to that.
Ah, but that would be a sin and endanger their mortal souls.
Immortal souls? Besides, the sooner he gets off this planet, the sooner he gets to purgatory. Shit, that ought to be heaven for this dude and his ilk. Nothing to do but beg for god's forgiveness all day, feel shame and guilt, with the added benefit of not being tempted to sin anymore. After you do enough of that, you get to a nondescript place called heaven where ... I don't know, things magically work out and you'll feel fulfilled for the rest of eternity. You certainly won't be as clueless and helpless in the afterlife as you are here, because ... uh, god and such.
You have to wait and hope you are lucky enough to be killed through the normal course of events.
Martyrdom doesn't count as a natural event, last I checked. It's an option freely available to every god-fearing Christian, and even the example put forth by its founder. It's also a thing that requires balls and real conviction, which puts it beyond the reach of most religious followers.