Gun grabbers: "Sandy Hook shows us that we need to ban assault weapons!"
Response, using the Clinton Defense: "Over 20 little kids died there, at this point what difference does the style of gun make!" Then slam the table, showing how much you mean it and you can't keep your bearing and composure because you feel so strongly about it.
Apparently that argument works now.
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:55 am
by thibodeaux
Did he actually even use the .223? I've heard so much bullshit and idiocy, I'm not sure of the facts.
"plenty of gun advocates cling to their semi-automatics the way Amy Winehouse and Michael Jackson clung to the shit that was killing them."
I've seen lots of weird drug shit in my day. Never have I seen anyone smoking, snorting, shooting, or ingesting a gun. Nor at any point have I seen statistics that say going to a shooting range has a higher mortality rate than prescription drug abuse.
He added that "to claim that America’s 'culture of violence' is responsible for school shootings is tantamount to cigarette company executives declaring that environmental pollution is the chief cause of cancer."
You're almost right, Steve. It's not a culture of "violence" but a culture of laziness.
A lazy mental health system and lazy-ass mother let a psycho kid have the means to waltz into a school and shoot it up.
A lazy-ass group of parents and teachers let the two equally psycho Columbine twats (Dylan and something) take the lazy way of resolving their problems. The list goes on.
This is the same strain of laziness, Steve, that affects you and a significant portion of the rest of this country in thinking that banning guns is going to protect you from getting shot.
Assault weapons will remain readily available to crazy people until the powerful pro-gun forces in this country decide to do a similar turnaround.
Yep, Steve, they're still available to you.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:17 pm
by Leisher
Great news!!!!
For too long video games have been demonized for being murder simulators. Well, they're about to spawn a new generation of doctors:
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The best part is that people playing this game won't need years of medical school!!!
No sarcasm was used in the posting of this message...promise!
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:17 pm
by TheCatt
Hah, I remember playing a surgeon simulator more than 20 years ago.
Wow. I get the idea of treating all guns as if they were loaded for the purposes of gun safety. But that right there is just too stupid for words.
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:56 pm
by thibodeaux
Give her a break, she's just a woman.
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:00 pm
by Malcolm
Somewhere, Annie Oakley is rolling over in her grave.
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:29 pm
by Malcolm
A mentally disturbed vet kills one who is less so. As Adam Lanza's mother has shown, nothing cures crazy like a trip to the shooting range. On a side note, guns are clearly the culprit here. We obviously must ban them from use in the armed forces. On a further side note, thumbs up to the U.S. gov't for supporting the troops ... right up until they come home and need medical or psychological treatment, then fuck those dudes because their services aren't required anymore.
Journalism is dead. Anyone who says there is no bias in the media is a fucking idiot.
These pieces are straight opinion disguised as fact.
Disgusting.
If it weren't for guns, these people would be alive... No they wouldn't you fucking idiots. Guns aren't the only things that can be used to kill people. Domestic situations end with strangulation, poisoning, stabbings, etc. all the fucking time.
I also love that they cite criminal behavior in their statistics as if gun laws would prevent criminals from having guns or committing crimes with guns.
Pelosi responded that Democrats wanted concrete scientific evidence in order to write the best legislation possible, and countered that Wallace's assumption about violence in the media could be incorrect.
Just fucking wow. You're claiming to be the party of science? Granted, the dudes on the other side of the aisle are just as stupid, but come the fuck on, you're about as far from being as scientist as I am from being a Buddhist saint. In the very next paragraph, you just shoot yourself down:
"I understand what you are saying," Pelosi said. "I'm a mother<s>fucker</s>, I'm a grandmother<s>fucker</s>. But, they -- not Hollywood, but the evidence -- says that, in Japan, for example, they have the most violent games and the lowest death -- mortality -- from guns. I don't know what the explanation is for that except they may have good gun laws."
A) Because you exhaustively put every other factor through a series of rigourous scientific experiments?
B) The most violent? How does one measure violence? Litres of digital blood splashed per minute? Heads exploded per hour? Aren't we trying to be scientific here?
C) Where's your control group?
D) I'm sure the insane devotion that Japan shows to its thousands of years of history and culture have no effect.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:27 pm
by thibodeaux
I bet that Japanese people in America commit gun crimes at about the same rate as Japanese people in Japan.
It's like the (supposed) quote from Friedman:
A Scandinavian economist once said to Milton Friedman, ‘In Scandinavia, we have no poverty’. Milton Friedman replied, ‘That’s interesting, because in America, among Scandinavians, we have no poverty, either’
But we must beware of thoughts such as these. We might not like the conclusions.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:59 pm
by Malcolm
I bet that Japanese people in America commit gun crimes at about the same rate as Japanese people in Japan.
We talking someone that lived in Japan for 50 years, then comes over here? Or are we talking someone with some clear Japanese ethnicity (both parents came over here, for example) that is an American?
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:14 pm
by thibodeaux
Malcolm wrote:We talking someone that lived in Japan for 50 years, then comes over here? Or are we talking someone with some clear Japanese ethnicity (both parents came over here, for example) that is an American?
Nisei, sansei, whatever you want. As long as they're not Yakuza, I bet they're pretty well behaved.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:55 pm
by TPRJones
I bet an American of Japanese descent that was raised in a primarily American way will have results that more closely match that of Americans than Japanese.
The differences like that among the races are not about genetics, they're about culture. Some cultures are different from others. Different cultures result in different outcomes.
Please note that I did not say better or worse, just different. The former can be debated, the latter is clearly obvious.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:08 pm
by thibodeaux
Social behavior has a very strong genetic component. Japanese act Japanese in part because of their genes. Ditto whites. Ditto blacks. I didn't want to believe it either, but it's pretty undeniable. Things like IQ, "big five" personality traits, time preference, etc. are all quite heritable (maybe 50%) and are all big contributors to how a person behaves in society.
That's not to say culture isn't PART of the equation. But it's not the entire thing.