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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:49 pm
by GORDON
They still sell cigs, though. That's the stupidest thing.

"Vaping."

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:38 pm
by Cakedaddy
I think the big difference is:
Cig: We are dangerous and are going to kill you one day.
Vape: We're safe!

With cigs, at least people have the facts and can make their choice based on them. With vaping, we are being lied to and so they should be pulled from shelves until they come clean and admit that they are going to kill you as well.

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:44 pm
by GORDON
Fair enough.

But I've seen a lot of those anti-smoking commercials that say it isn't safe.

"Vaping."

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:18 am
by Vince
Cakedaddy wrote: I think the big difference is:
Cig: We are dangerous and are going to kill you one day.
Vape: We're safe!

With cigs, at least people have the facts and can make their choice based on them. With vaping, we are being lied to and so they should be pulled from shelves until they come clean and admit that they are going to kill you as well.
While I think it's fair to say we don't know if vaping is safe, the deaths so far (to my knowledge) have not been related to the legally sold stuff, have they?

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:38 am
by Leisher

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:14 am
by Leisher

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:07 pm
by TheCatt

Vaping

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:40 pm
by TheCatt
18 deaths, >1,000 illnesses
Of the 578 cases where doctors know what patients were using, roughly 78% of the patients said they vaped THC, the active ingredient in marijuana.

"Vaping."

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:20 am
by Vince

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:44 am
by TheCatt

"Vaping."

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:57 am
by Vince
A righteous crusade supported by media hysteria is almost always a safe political move.

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:20 pm
by TheCatt
Vitamin e oil may be the cause
There's now solid evidence that vitamin E oil found in bootleg THC vape products is behind at least some of the 2,000-plus severe vaping-related lung injuries nationwide — a finding the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention calls a "breakthrough" in the investigation.

"For the first time, we have detected a potential toxin of concern: vitamin E acetate," Dr. Anne Schuchat, CDC's principal deputy director, said in a call with reporters on Friday. Vitamin E acetate, an oil, is a synthetic form of vitamin E.

Investigators tested samples of fluid taken from the lungs of 29 patients with vaping illness in 10 different states, and found vitamin E acetate in all 29. No other oils, such as mineral oil or plant oils, were found at high levels.

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:42 am
by TheCatt
Now with popcorn lung!

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:56 am
by GORDON
Fucking gross.

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:48 am
by Leisher

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:58 am
by Leisher

Vaping

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:39 pm
by Leisher
Juul wants approval for new vape that can verify the user's age.
To verify a user’s age, the proposed vape pairs with a phone app, requiring a customer to either upload their government ID and a real-time selfie or input personal information and allow a third-party database to verify their identity, according to a Juul spokesperson.
Call me crazy, but I think this will be beaten rather quickly.

Vaping

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:11 am
by TheCatt
Probably just a way to "show they care" about underage use while knowing it will never be approved