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Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:01 pm
by Malcolm
Ben Carson is picking up the dumb-ass baton right where Alan Keyes dropped it.
“He was probably talking out loud rather than thinking. That’s not a good thing to do when everything you say is going to be analyzed,” Carson told Politico in an interview.
The presumptive GOP nominee has offered no apology for the remarks, which were condemned by many in his own party as wildly inappropriate at best and racist at worst. But Carson said Trump told him during a private meeting at Trump Tower that he thought the attacks indeed were a mistake.
“He fully recognizes that that was not the right thing to say,” Carson told Politico.
No, he doesn't. He only recognized it after the polls told him it was stupid and members of his hijacked party started yanking their endorsements.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:13 pm
by Malcolm
The fuck?
David Goss, 35, decided to start the site in February after hearing from conservative friends that supporting the real estate businessman had made dating difficult for them.
So he started TrumpSingles.com, a dating site that, like its candidate, promises to make dating “great again.”
...
Trump Singles isn’t the only presidential-candidate-themed dating site to have cropped up this election cycle. BernieSingles.com, which grew out of a popular Facebook page, promises to be a site “where progressives meet” and "the 1% aren't the only ones getting screwed this election season."
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:22 pm
by TheCatt
There's been a large trend towards niche dating sites over the past several years. This is just more of that.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:13 pm
by Malcolm
Trump dodges question and goes off on non sequitur, also known as the "Grandpa Simpson" strategy of sophistry.
When I sat down with Trump, I told him this story and asked what he might do to dispel the perception that his comments about a Mexican-American federal judge, about Mexicans generally, and about Muslims indicated racist attitudes.
This was Trump’s response:
“Well, I am not a racist, in fact, I am the least racist person that you’ve ever encountered. I’ll give you an example. It’s funny, I just got this, it was just sent to me by Don King. Now, Don knows more about race than anybody. He owns this newspaper, you know --Don’s made a lot of money. He just sent this to me, look at this.”
He handed me a copy of the latest edition of the Call & Post, a black weekly based in Cleveland that King owns. On the back of the paper was a full-page announcement endorsing Trump for president and Bernie Sanders for vice president.
“Isn’t that funny?” Trump continued. “You know, Don endorsed me. You wanna take that back with you? You know, this could be a story, it just came out. He just delivered it to my office. But isn’t that funny? This is Don King. Now, Don King knows racism probably better than anybody. He’s not endorsing a racist, okay? Do you want to use it? You can have the story, it just came out. I just got it 10 minutes ago, I don’t know. Whatever.”
What in the fuck?
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:15 am
by Malcolm
Trump wants to ban the British and Israelis from entering the country.
Donald Trump called Monday for outlawing immigrants from areas of the world with a history of terrorism as part of his proposed temporary ban on all Muslims entering the United States — a radical rewriting of U.S. counterterrorism policy that he argued was essential to protect the peace and security of women and gays in particular.
You'll note he fails to distinguish between areas hit by it and areas that breed it. Irish need not apply in any case, I guess.
Yes, I get the gist of what he was going for, but he missed it by such a wide mark he's insane.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:02 pm
by Malcolm
Can we call this the Brown Scare?
“We need to make sure every single person involved in this plan, including anyone who knew something, but didn’t tell us, is brought to justice,” Trump said in New Hampshire. “These people need to have consequences, big consequences.”
Trump failed to mention that many of the San Bernardino shooters’ neighbors described them as “quiet, religious people who didn’t attract attention or suspicion.”
He also strayed slightly from the prepared remarks posted on his website, which read, “If it can be proven that somebody had information about any attack, and did not give this information to authorities, they must serve prison time.”
A quote springs to mind.
You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:35 pm
by Alhazad
Malcolm wrote:Donald Trump called Monday for outlawing immigrants from areas of the world with a history of terrorism[...]
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Yes, I get the gist of what he was going for, but he missed it by such a wide mark he's insane.
Well, yeah. Terrorism is how you wage war on any enemy you can't fight directly. Pretty much every country that has ever existed has a history of terrorism, including America. Check the bottom of Boston harbor if you don't believe.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:37 pm
by TPRJones
There's a difference between terrorism and guerilla warfare. One of those targets children and other innocent bystanders and the other doesn't.
I don't recall stories of targeting schools during the Revolutionary war.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:15 pm
by GORDON
TPRJones wrote:There's a difference between terrorism and guerilla warfare. One of those targets children and other innocent bystanders and the other doesn't.
I don't recall stories of targeting schools during the Revolutionary war.
Of course you don't.... the winning side is writing the history books!

Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:19 am
by TPRJones
Admittedly that is a possibility.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:40 am
by GORDON
But I know what you were saying. And I agree with you, though I understand what Alhazah was saying, too.
How's that for fucking tact.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:25 am
by TPRJones
Surprising.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:47 am
by GORDON
Your mom is surprising.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:54 am
by TPRJones
True.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:59 am
by Alhazad
TPRJones wrote:There's a difference between terrorism and guerilla warfare. One of those targets children and other innocent bystanders and the other doesn't.
I don't recall stories of targeting schools during the Revolutionary war.
Schlub merchants just trying to sell tea aren't bystanders? The East India Company was not an arm nor associate of the British government.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:49 pm
by TPRJones
Alhazad wrote:The East India Company was not an arm nor associate of the British government.
Yes it was. By the 1770s they were quite literally a branch of the government, having been taken over by parliament. Besides any company given a completely monopoly by a government is fair game if protesting against that government regarding that monopoly. They were in no way innocent nor were they bystanders.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:56 pm
by GORDON
Plus there was that shit they tried to pull with Davey Jones. Fuck them.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:07 pm
by Alhazad
TPRJones wrote:Yes it was. By the 1770s they were quite literally a branch of the government, having been taken over by parliament.
I don't think that's the case.
From
parliament.uk:
The resulting new laws - the East India Company Loan Act and the East India Company Regulating Act [of 1773] - made it possible for the government to extend a loan to the Company in exchange for recognition of the British state's ultimate authority over the Indian territories[emphasis mine].
[...]
More government control came with the India Act of 1784, under Prime Minister William Pitt. This created a committee of six government appointees, known as the Board of Control, who were to monitor and direct the Company's policies.
The Tea Party was in 1773, prior to the India Act.
TPRJones wrote:Besides any company given a completely monopoly by a government is fair game if protesting against that government regarding that monopoly. They were in no way innocent nor were they bystanders.
So bombing General Electric or Comcast buildings to protest them would be properly guerilla warfare? I think the line is not so distinct.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:08 pm
by Malcolm
So ... Comcast buildings to protest them would be properly guerilla warfare?
There aren't enough bombs to level those fucking things flat enough.
Re: Trump 2016
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:14 pm
by GORDON
Alhazad wrote:
So bombing General Electric or Comcast buildings to protest them would be properly guerilla warfare? I think the line is not so distinct.
I would consider that argument.