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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:52 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:I'm just saying there were mixed messages, and they were retarded.
I think the ultimate decider of what is & ain't a decent flick for me is whether or not it pisses off people thoughtfully.
I'm a paranoid, militaristic, brutal motherfucker. Some people simply need to have their lives made more difficult so mine gets to be what I think is fair or better or whatever. Precisely HOW those lives get made more difficult is a matter of much debate. There's been times in the history where our gov't has gone about it in less than stellar ways. I like to think commies were crushed in spite of McCarthy's inherent stupidity & press-grabbing causing fraudulent panic.
I also like to think militant, fundamentalist Islam will be regarded as a historical anachronism that miraculously carried thru to modern times due to precisely the wrong people being influential at the most unfortunately inopportune times possible.
In short, even if a flick makes you think about how it contradicted itself philosophically, at least it's making think.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:50 pm
by TheCatt
This movie was awful. Like maybe 1/10 awful, god it was just an abortion.
Temple of Doom was much better.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:57 pm
by Leisher
Temple of Doom was much better.
That is fantastic.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:52 pm
by TPRJones
I almost liked it the first time I saw it (except a few "Fuck me that's stupid" moments). Since then I've seen it twice more, and each time it gets worse.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:53 pm
by GORDON
If only Spielberg would stop pretending Lucas isn't insane...
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:55 pm
by Vince
I don't think you can dump this all on Lucas. What's Spielberg done lately that wasn't stupid and a stinking pile?
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:58 pm
by GORDON
Can't think of anything he's done since... AI?
What's he done since 2001? Besides that Indiana Jones flick?
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:46 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Can't think of anything he's done since... AI?
What's he done since 2001? Besides that Indiana Jones flick?
Fuck AI. He may as well've shat on Kubrick's grave. He's not been directing much. Been doing fuckloads of producing. In w\ Michael Bay on the fucking POS new Transformers flicks.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:51 pm
by GORDON
Really? And I didn't particularly like that flick, either. Was too sanitized, too much "wacky," and I have a feeling that I am going to be the person who, someday, has to kill Shai Lebouf, however you spell his name.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:59 pm
by Vince
Looking at the last 20 years...
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008)
Munich (2005)
War of the Worlds (2005)
The Terminal (2004)
Catch Me If You Can (2002)
Minority Report (2002)
Artificial Intelligence: AI (2001)
The Unfinished Journey (1999)
Saving Private Ryan (1998)
Amistad (1997)
The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997)
Schindler's List (1993)
Jurassic Park (1993)
Hook (1991)
Always (1989)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)
Stick a fork in him
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 11:25 pm
by Leisher
I heard that he's revisiting Jurassic Park soon.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 11:57 pm
by Vince
Maybe he can keep his anti-gun horseshit out of it this time.
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 12:58 am
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Really? And I didn't particularly like that flick, either. Was too sanitized, too much "wacky," and I have a feeling that I am going to be the person who, someday, has to kill Shai Lebouf, however you spell his name.
The story of AI was something along the lines of Kubrick & Spielberg were working on this shit since the '70s or so. Then Spielberg walks away & leaves it in Kubrick's hands. He dies, his wife hands it off to Steven & says, "Finish this." One can only wonder if the phrase, "because I need the cash it'll make, despite the fact you'll fuck it up," followed.
& the day you need to kill Shia LaBoeuf, I'm in on that.
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:49 am
by TPRJones
Leisher wrote:I heard that he's revisiting Jurassic Park soon.
I bet at the end there will be aliens.
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:34 am
by TheCatt
In that list of the last 20 years, several good films, a few not so good/haven't seen.
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:37 am
by Leisher
Maybe he can keep his anti-gun horseshit out of it this time.
Yeah, they can negotiate with the dinosaurs.
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:17 am
by GORDON
Vince wrote:Looking at the last 20 years...
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008)
Munich (2005)
War of the Worlds (2005)
The Terminal (2004)
Catch Me If You Can (2002)
Minority Report (2002)
Artificial Intelligence: AI (2001)
The Unfinished Journey (1999)
Saving Private Ryan (1998)
Amistad (1997)
The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997)
Schindler's List (1993)
Jurassic Park (1993)
Hook (1991)
Always (1989)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)
Stick a fork in him
I actually don't mind (most of) the 50% of the films I see in this list. No OMG huge ones like Jaws, but hey, we all seem to get more worthless as we get older, so I can't blame him much. I haven't seen about 30% of them.
Hated War of the Worlds, but half of that was because of the presence of Tom Cruise.
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:49 am
by TPRJones
I seem to be seeing a pattern myself. Of the ones I've seen, I like the movies he's done on that list with no aliens and I do not like the ones with aliens.
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:35 pm
by TheCatt
I wonder if Frank's original script was better.
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:19 pm
by TPRJones
Japan FM says Indiana Jones trivializes nuke threat
"There was a scene in a hit movie last year in which the famous hero, facing a blast from a nuclear test, hid in a refrigerator," Foreign Minister Hirofumi Nakasone said in a speech against nuclear weapons.
"I was surprised by the movie's lack of awareness of a nuclear bomb blast. A nuclear explosion destroys everything in an instant. I felt concern that this kind of easy-going image might spread around the world."
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