Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:42 pm
That seems sincere.TPRJones wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....be&t=12I'm either being fucked with..
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:04 am
GORDON wrote:What were you thinking when I said "a need?"
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:30 am
tl;dr
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:36 am
Just read the middle panelGORDON wrote:tl;dr
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:40 am
But most people are taught the difference between "wants" and "needs" in grade school, and I guess my mistake is that everyone had that common context.
Once again, I completely fail.
Once again, I completely fail.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:51 am
The problem is that wants and needs are a) relative and b) fluid.GORDON wrote:But most people are taught the difference between "wants" and "needs" in grade school, and I guess my mistake is that everyone had that common context.
Once again, I completely fail.
Your perspective is that of when you were taught the words, with the meaning that you were given at that time.
However, the word need has many meanings, not just "essential for survival." Thus, it's open to interpretation as to what constitutes and need, and what does not.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:55 am
Exactly my point. In the context I was using, "Needs" means "essential to survival." I had no idea everyone wouldn't automatically know the context.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:45 pm
We are supposed to be able to read your mind?GORDON wrote:Exactly my point. In the context I was using, "Needs" means "essential to survival." I had no idea everyone wouldn't automatically know the context.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:53 pm
You don't need to read his mind.TheCatt wrote:We are supposed to be able to read your mind?GORDON wrote:Exactly my point. In the context I was using, "Needs" means "essential to survival." I had no idea everyone wouldn't automatically know the context.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:54 pm
He clearly WANTS me to.Malcolm wrote:You don't need to read his mind.TheCatt wrote:We are supposed to be able to read your mind?GORDON wrote:Exactly my point. In the context I was using, "Needs" means "essential to survival." I had no idea everyone wouldn't automatically know the context.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:56 pm
Four other people were able to correctly glean context. I'd love it if any of them were here supporting my side of the argument but I guess I get what I get.TheCatt wrote:We are supposed to be able to read your mind?GORDON wrote:Exactly my point. In the context I was using, "Needs" means "essential to survival." I had no idea everyone wouldn't automatically know the context.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:02 pm
GORDON wrote:Four other people were able to correctly glean context. I'd love it if any of them were here supporting my side of the argument but I guess I get what I get.TheCatt wrote:We are supposed to be able to read your mind?GORDON wrote:Exactly my point. In the context I was using, "Needs" means "essential to survival." I had no idea everyone wouldn't automatically know the context.
A man has three needs: food, sex, and silence. Feed me, fuck me, shut the fuck up.
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:06 pm
I don't feel the need to comment.GORDON wrote:Four other people were able to correctly glean context. I'd love it if any of them were here supporting my side of the argument but I guess I get what I get.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:00 pm
Then no, cell phones are not a need. By that definition water, nutritionally complete foods without toxins, and a properly oxygenated atmosphere without too much CO2 are the only needs.GORDON wrote:In the context I was using, "Needs" means "essential to survival."
But clearly that is not the definition you actually meant or you wouldn't have included shelter and clothing in there. You don't even know what you meant, so how could you expect us to?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:01 pm
Party pooped.Alhazad wrote:I don't feel the need to comment.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:42 pm
Warmth + sleep also.TPRJones wrote:Then no, cell phones are not a need. By that definition water, nutritionally complete foods without toxins, and a properly oxygenated atmosphere without too much CO2 are the only needs.GORDON wrote:In the context I was using, "Needs" means "essential to survival."
But clearly that is not the definition you actually meant or you wouldn't have included shelter and clothing in there. You don't even know what you meant, so how could you expect us to?
But yeah, that list stops on one hand.
Gordon's just confusing shit up by including non-essential items that are actually wants.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:21 pm
And the truth is even those needs are relative on a time scale. Right now I don't need food. But I will eventually.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:32 pm
I still say shelter is a need. Nobody lives out in the elements permanently and still has a long life.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:01 pm
I don't disagree about shelter being a need. I'm just saying the necessity of it for survival is heavily dependant on climate, and that this discrepancy is because "need" is often more than just "necessary for survival".
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:33 pm
Well, name a climate where, without shelter, you dont get rained on, cooked, eaten by insects, drowned, suffocated (very high altitued), frozen, or rotted away?TPRJones wrote:I don't disagree about shelter being a need. I'm just saying the necessity of it for survival is heavily dependant on climate, and that this discrepancy is because "need" is often more than just "necessary for survival".