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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:12 pm
by GORDON
As long as the nuclear plants aren't more than 200 feet under water, apparently.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:13 pm
by TPRJones
Malcolm wrote:Hopefully the engineers that look after the nuclear plants are more competent than the ones that drill into the water.
Fortunately with modern reactor design it's impossible to accidentaly cause major catastrophes. They're the most foolproof creations of man by several orders of magnitude.
Too bad we aren't allowed to build new ones and have to rely on much older and much less safe reactors. *sigh*
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:32 pm
by Malcolm
TPRJones wrote:Malcolm wrote:Hopefully the engineers that look after the nuclear plants are more competent than the ones that drill into the water.
Fortunately with modern reactor design it's impossible to accidentaly cause major catastrophes. They're the most foolproof creations of man by several orders of magnitude.
Too bad we aren't allowed to build new ones and have to rely on much older and much less safe reactors. *sigh*
There's no design so perfect that a big enough idiot can't fuck it up.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:55 pm
by TPRJones
I'm not so sure. These reactors might fit that description. Although that's only if it's built following the design; I will stipulate that idiots during the construction phase could render it possible to fuck up.
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:00 pm
by Leisher
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:43 pm
by WSGrundy
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:19 pm
by GORDON
I think BP, as a brand, is in trouble in this country.
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:53 pm
by TheCatt
A lot of people thought the same about Exxon, but true, this is bigger.
I bought some BP stock today on a flier.. we'll see.
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:41 pm
by TPRJones
Welcome to the club. I bought it last week. Wish I had waited a little longer.
On the up side, their current physical assets come out to about $50 a share, so in the long run it's a good deal. Just a question of how long that will have to be.
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:45 am
by TheCatt
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:29 pm
by Leisher
Ok, this Hollywood star actually makes sense. Not so much in something he's saying, but the fact that they're talking to him because, as it turns out, he's actually in the oil cleanup business.
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:44 pm
by TPRJones
Yeah, too bad it doesn't work at any sort of useful scale. If you ever get an oil spill in your swimming pool, then it might be worth the time to use this method.
Costner might mean well, but his actions are those of just another asshole using his fame to get someone in his family some cash.
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:39 pm
by unkbill
"This is a technology that I believe has the potential to fight catastrophic oil spills ... These will serve as the first line of defense in the oil spill clean-up and recovery.
That statement alone to me is scary. This should be the most catastrophic event this planet ever has to put up with. Is he saying there is going to be another. It is just wrong thinking. How about just maybe this doesn't have to happen again. I am such a tree hugger. I hope you people will help me. You don't have to actually hug a tree.
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:33 pm
by GORDON
Dude, there aren't any trees a thousand feet underwater.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:23 am
by Malcolm
The hypocrisy positively drips from this one.
"Why aren't your safety procedures adequate?"
"Because you fuckers campaigned on the platform of reducing dependency on foreign oil."
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:37 pm
by Leisher
This should be the most catastrophic event this planet ever has to put up with. Is he saying there is going to be another.
Hate to break it to you, but worse events have happened, and WILL happen.
Not all are man made either. Perhaps you've forgotten Hurricane Katrina or any of the other hurricanes that have made landfall and devastated whatever society was/is there. How about the earthquake in Haiti? The tidal wave that killed 300K in Indonesia? This is a short list of recent events only. It doesn't include past events or potential future ones.
Yes, mother nature can fuck the environment up too. That oil would have eventually found its way out of the ground naturally.
Sure, man can make mistakes with the environment, but if we learn from them and develop technology to prevent it from happening in the future, then it's win-win for us and nature.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:38 pm
by Troy
Leisher wrote:That oil would have eventually found its way out of the ground naturally.
You can't be serious with that argument.
How about "Sure he was poisoned with Cyanide, but he would have eaten enough almonds, eventually"
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:58 pm
by Leisher
Troy wrote:Leisher wrote:That oil would have eventually found its way out of the ground naturally.
You can't be serious with that argument.
How about "Sure he was poisoned with Cyanide, but he would have eaten enough almonds, eventually"
What argument? Seriously.
I'm not defending the oil leak, I'm pointing out to Unk that catastrophes happen all the time with and without man's help.
Please don't cherry pick my posts and try to start a debate by taking something out of context.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:07 pm
by unkbill
Leisher wrote:Sure, man can make mistakes with the environment, but if we learn from them and develop technology to prevent it from happening in the future, then it's win-win for us and nature.
I wish I had that much faith in my fellow man. I'm still not against offshore drilling just want it done safely. It may come out a win/win but at how much of a cost. And I don't mean money wise.
As for BP. I believe they brought it on themselves by stupidity and corporate greed.
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:11 pm
by Leisher
I wish I had that much faith in my fellow man.
If it makes you feel better, I think people suck. However, in a case like this, I KNOW it won't happen again. How? Because it's costing people money. People don't like to lose money. They'll develop a new system that prevents something like this from happening again.
As for BP. I believe they brought it on themselves by stupidity and corporate greed.
Don't be too quick to strap all the blame on BP. Remember that our government oversees this stuff. Also, there was another company involved who may actually be responsible for the rig.
Is BP blameless? Hell no, but I don't think they are solely responsible.
