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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:29 pm
by Malcolm
He ordered her not to interfere with clerks in her office issuing marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples.
So she's going to jail again as soon as she pulls this shit next time? She still has her fucking job?
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:00 pm
by TPRJones
Yup.
If she keeps insisting, I suspect there will be a bill in the KY state congress to take the name of the clerk off of marriage licenses across the state. But the earliest that could happen would be January so she's got a long wait.
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:05 pm
by Malcolm
An ancillary case.
A Muslim flight attendant for ExpressJet is fighting to be reinstated after she says the airline suspended her for refusing to serve alcohol.
In a complaint filed last week with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Charee Stanley said the carrier had revoked a reasonable arrangement made to accommodate her religious beliefs.
Just as much bullshit as the clerk's argument. Your religion doesn't get to ride roughshod over other people's lives. Everyone have fun when Christian Scientists start suing for discrimination when they become doctors.
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:20 pm
by TheCatt
I'm ok with her not drinking alcohol, but I'm not aware she cannot serve it.
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:28 pm
by TPRJones
The argument involved is similar, but I don't consider the cases parallel. There's a big difference between denying someone's right to marriage and denying someone's right to a whiskey sour. Plus she wasn't working as a government official, who by being paid through taxation must be held to an even higher standard.
Not that I think she should win. If it's part of the job and she can't do the job she should quit. But then again on the other hand the complaint that lead the company to take action leans towards violating some laws:
The complaint also noted that Stanley "had a book with foreign writings and wore a headdress," CNN wrote.
Not nearly as open and shut as the other case, IMO.
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:30 pm
by Malcolm
TheCatt wrote:I'm ok with her not drinking alcohol, but I'm not aware she cannot serve it.
Not good enough, depending on how insane your branch of Islam is.
They ask you about intoxicants and games of chance. Say: In both of them there is a great sin and means of profit for men, and their sin is greater than their profit.
In other words, not only may you not consume them, you shouldn't let others do so, either. Not until you hit paradise and get to drink the various rivers of wine that flow throughout.
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:20 pm
by Malcolm
Inertia.
The Rowan County Rights Coalition has no objection to licenses being issued as Davis described, spokeswoman Mary Hargis said. Davis violated the civil rights of same-sex couples when she chose not to issue marriage licenses, she added.
"She has an excuse as a religious conviction, but when did religious conviction and religious freedom become a shield for bigotry?" Hargis said.
Since always.
"I'm here before you this morning with a seemingly impossible choice that I do not wish on any of my fellow Americans: my conscience or my freedom," Davis said.
Bullshit. No one is forcing you to work that job. Get down off your fucking cross.
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:19 pm
by GORDON
Malcolm wrote:Bullshit. No one is forcing you to work that job. Get down off your fucking cross.
So you're saying she doesn't need the high paying job, she merely wants it?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:49 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Malcolm wrote:Bullshit. No one is forcing you to work that job. Get down off your fucking cross.
So you're saying she doesn't
need the high paying job, she merely
wants it?
Same as her faith.
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:59 pm
by GORDON
Malcolm wrote:GORDON wrote:Malcolm wrote:Bullshit. No one is forcing you to work that job. Get down off your fucking cross.
So you're saying she doesn't
need the high paying job, she merely
wants it?
Same as her faith.
I could argue that isn't true. I think some peeps would fall apart without it.
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:05 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Malcolm wrote:GORDON wrote:
So you're saying she doesn't need the high paying job, she merely wants it?
Same as her faith.
I could argue that isn't true. I think some peeps would fall apart without it.
I bet people fall apart due to forced retirement all the time. Christopher Lee couldn't even contemplate retirement. Fortunately, he picked a biz where he could work literally until the day he died.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:43 pm
by Malcolm
Alabama invokes Jim Crow law to deny issuing marriage licenses to anyone, in case they might be gay.
In 1961, a time when the all-white Legislature was trying to preserve racial segregation, lawmakers rewrote state law to make it optional for counties to issue marriage licenses.
Sounds constitutional.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:21 pm
by TPRJones
Well, I mean in terms of equal protection it might be okay. As long as they stick to it and don't issue any at all regardless of race or sexual orientation.
I wonder if the Christian Right will decry how these judges have declared war on marriage.
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:11 pm
by Malcolm
Asshole cunt of a bench pig legally kidnaps a couple's child. But it's ok because they're lesbians and Utah treats them as second class citizens.
copy of the court order by Judge Scott Johansen, a juvenile judge in Utah's Seventh District, was not immediately available, though the Salt Lake Tribune confirmed its contents. Hoagland told KUTV Johansen said "through his research he had found out that kids in homosexual homes don't do as well as they do in heterosexual homes." She added that, when the judge was asked to show the research, he wouldn't.
Naturally, this is the first time he's acted like a power tripping dickwad who has no biz being on a bench.
Johansen's exploits even led to the short-lived blog "Judge Scott Johansen is a tyrant" after he challenged home-schoolers in Utah to enroll their kids in class, or possibly lose them to the foster system.
"Scott Johansen is out of line," a post from 2007 that called him "out of control" read. "He hates homeschooling so much that when a school lost a mother's paper stating she will be homeschooling her kids the judge ordered the mother to enroll her kids in school within 24 hours or go to jail and lose her kids."
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:56 pm
by Malcolm
Re: Marriage Equality
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:59 am
by Vince
Re: Marriage Equality
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:21 am
by TheCatt
Eww, god, ewww...
Re: Marriage Equality
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:45 am
by Malcolm
I don't think jail's necessary. A guarantee of their inability to reproduce is. If they agree to that, they can get married all they want.
Re: Marriage Equality
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:58 am
by Vince
Okay Margaret
Re: Marriage Equality
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 12:03 pm
by Malcolm
Provided they don't produce retarded children and are consenting adults, 99.99% of the time I don't give a fuck who people fuck.