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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:01 pm
by Leisher
Malcolm wrote:GORDON wrote:Malcolm wrote:At the very least, both have a coherent platform and plan for wtf they'd do if elected.
And they both lie about 100% of what they plan to do.
I got a decent idea what they'll do if they get elected. Trump is less predictable and has the potential to fuck up on the scale of Hoover, Nixon, or Buchanan.
Yeah, socialism has either worked or been a minor disaster everywhere...
I'd rather have some asshole wing it than another asshole who wants to march us off a cliff like the lemmings that went before us.
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:20 pm
by Malcolm
What will turn us in that direction is the congressional seats that the pachyderms lose because their nominee is less electable than Andrew dice clay.
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:34 pm
by Malcolm
The fuq?
I did not know about it, and have not, as yet, read it. Likewise, I have nothing to do with the National Enquirer and unlike Lyin’ Ted Cruz I do not surround myself with political hacks and henchman and then pretend total innocence...
... said Donnie the brain-dead sack of shit.
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:25 pm
by Vince
Ann Coulter, Trump Campaign Manager Spread Hoax News Story
What had me rolling was this twitter feed (thread? whatever)
Nate Silver on Twitter
Trump only hires THE BEST people. Been reading about his ground game in these states since the primaries. Looking like if he doesn't wrap up the 1237 delegates (and that's in question now as his poll numbers are collapsing) that he's going to lose at the convention simply because he doesn't know how this works.
I suspect Cruz will pull it out at the convention if it gets that far since he knows very well how that game works as he was one of the attorneys Bush sent to Florida in '00
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:28 pm
by Troy
Vince wrote:I suspect Cruz will pull it out at the convention if it gets that far
It will be a hell of a week if that happens. Riots, Fires, the crazies will come out of the woodwork - especially the ones who have coined the term "eGop" which I didn't know existed until this week.
Not in my neck of the woods, but other places.
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:49 pm
by GORDON
I find it somewhat amusing that Malcolm has called me a fool more than once for bothering to vote in presidential elections, but he has extremely strong opinions about for whom we shouldn't vote.
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:23 pm
by Vince
Troy wrote:Vince wrote:I suspect Cruz will pull it out at the convention if it gets that far
It will be a hell of a week if that happens. Riots, Fires, the crazies will come out of the woodwork - especially the ones who have coined the term "eGop" which I didn't know existed until this week.
Not in my neck of the woos, but other places.
I agree. It will be a mess. But it looks like he's going into the convention about as prepared as he went into the debates. And these last two where there weren't enough candidates to dilute the ignorant (not stupid, but unprepared) shows that he doesn't care too much about learning stuff. Don't know that he can blame anyone but himself for that one.
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:10 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:I find it somewhat amusing that Malcolm has called me a fool more than once for bothering to vote in presidential elections, but he has extremely strong opinions about for whom we shouldn't vote.
All choices are shitty, but Trump is shitty in a way that makes Ross Perot look like Henry Kissinger. I'd prefer no one vote in the pathetic system we have, but if you have to, I know who I want to lose. I'll still take Bernie over Trump any day of the week. I'd take Xerxes from 300 over Trump.
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:49 pm
by Vince
In 2012 the best point to hit Obama on was Obamacare. So the Republicans nominated the one Republican in the field that actually implemented his own Obamacare that Obamacare said he modeled his Obamacare after, thus completely removing the single best arrow from their quiver.
This year we are going to run against the Democrat candidate with the second highest negative poll numbers in the history of negative number poll taking. And The Republicans are on their way to nominating the candidate with the WORST negative poll numbers of any candidate since they started negative poll taking.
I'm starting to think the Republicans just deserve to lose.
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:54 pm
by Malcolm
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:19 pm
by Leisher
I like that Trump gets the headline there, and at the very bottom it's casually mentioned that they also burned an Obama.
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:15 pm
by Vince
Here's why I don't think Trump can win the primary. If he gets to 1237 he's golden, but I think that's becoming less and less likely. A contested convention happens once every 40 or 50 years, so planning on one seems like a waste of money and effert. Until it happens. Then you look like a freaking genius.
The Cruz campaign has shrewdly been picking “the people who will be the actual delegates to the convention, where they will help write the rules and ultimately choose the nominee,” according to the Journal.
“I do not know Mr. Trump, I do not know his staff people. Quite frankly, we don’t have much of a campaign in Louisiana. All we have is voters,” Kay Kellogg Katz, a Trump supporter told the WSJ, in summarizing the predicament of the Trump campaign. Katz was unsuccessful in winning a position on a key panel at the convention.
I read another story where Cruz is stacking the delegate deck in FL as well. That won't help with the initial 3 votes, but after that Florida goes free to choose any candidate.
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:58 pm
by Malcolm
Christ on a crutch, I hope you're right.
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:19 pm
by Vince
Personally I find it fall on the floor funny that the guy with a "vary good brain" that gets the best people and negotiates the best deals stands to lose because his ignorance of how the convention works is going to keep him from being able to make a deal. I really, really want to see this happen for that reason alone.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:47 am
by Malcolm
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:40 am
by Alhazad
Vince wrote:Kay Kellogg Katz, a Trump supporter
Nice initials, lady.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:20 am
by Vince
I missed that with the initials. And I saw almost a verbatim quote from a guy in IL as well in a different story. Trump has no ground game at all in any of these states.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:58 am
by Leisher
The Republicans are fucked no matter what and they're responsible for this nightmare.
They continue to cling to outdated politics and cater almost exclusively to a voter base that's shrinking. They continue to ignore how the Democrats place social issues at the forefront to hide their glaring weaknesses elsewhere. They did nothing as Trump came along and only now want to try and hijack things at the very end.
If Trump doesn't get the nomination due to some backdoor political deals, the Republicans will be even more fucked than they are now. Yes, nominating him is just shit, but you have a place to go from there. You've hit rock bottom and can shift gears on your entire party from that point.
If you do the wheeling and dealing, you go lower than rock bottom. You alienate a HUGE percentage of your own base who will then vote for Trump as a third party candidate. Now those people are pissed at you going forward because you've openly said you don't care about them by not nominating their guy. Meanwhile, the Dems easily win the presidency and you'll probably lose a lot of seats in Congress as well.
If Paul Ryan or Marco Rubio are the future of the Republican party, they need to start now. Take over the party and update political platforms.
And how is nobody in the Republican leadership at least trying to coddle Trump and ease up his rhetoric?
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:14 am
by Malcolm
how is nobody in the Republican leadership at least trying to coddle Trump and ease up his rhetoric?
They try, he doesn't listen.
the Republicans will be even more fucked than they are now.
I'd have a bit more respect if they found a way to deny it to him. As far as the people voting for him, they can go off and live in third party land and self-excise while the GOP keeps the brand instead of vice versa.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:54 am
by Malcolm
Donnie Dimwit is pouting.
Just to show you how unfair Republican primary politics can be, I won the State of Louisiana and get less delegates than Cruz-Lawsuit coming
Here's a classic:
Another radical Islamic attack, this time in Pakistan, targeting Christian women & children. At least 67 dead,400 injured. I alone can solve.
"What a vivid imagination."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Cruz spokesman Ron Nehring late Sunday tweeted that Trump's time might be better spent "reading rules" instead of sending "hate-tweets."
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