RIP Gordon
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Vince wrote:More freedom, not less.
Vince wrote:More freedom, not less.
I disagree with this. The cities would eat themselves, but we country folk will have about 7 minutes of smacking the local teenagers around, then everything will be fine.Malcolm wrote:If you want to give people the most freedom, then 75% of the population will be dead in a month.
That is very true. Only about 20% of the Jews were willing to leave Egypt (and slavery) with Moses.GORDON wrote:I was reading a gun control thread in another forum this morning, and someone mentioned slippery slope arguments, and how one law leads to another, and it leads to the government having more control over the decisions you make, and "that's just how liberals like it," and what occurred to me is this:Vince wrote:More freedom, not less.
Some people take to slavery easier than others.
Overconfidence.GORDON wrote:I disagree with this. The cities would eat themselves, but we country folk will have about 7 minutes of smacking the local teenagers around, then everything will be fine.Malcolm wrote:If you want to give people the most freedom, then 75% of the population will be dead in a month.
Malcolm wrote:GORDON wrote:Malcolm wrote:If you want to give people the most freedom, then 75% of the population will be dead in a month.
I disagree with this. The cities would eat themselves, but we country folk will have about 7 minutes of smacking the local teenagers around, then everything will be fine.
Overconfidence.
All those rural farmer dudes out in the Midwest who go apeshit whenever someone threatens to take away their ag subsidies?Vince wrote:I tend to agree w/ Gordo. Plus people in the more rural areas are much more used to taking care of things themselves. City peeps tend to be like that commercial where the people are on the escalator that stops and they're all calling for help and trying to reassure each other not to panic that help would be coming soon.
A GoFundMe page for a different Christian-owned business, Sweet Cakes by Melissa in Oregon, was yanked down by GFM because there are discrimination charges pending against the owner and it’s GFM’s policy not to raise money “in defense of formal charges of heinous crimes, including violent, hateful, or sexual acts.” Politely refusing to cater a gay wedding is, evidently, now a “heinous crime.” But that raised a question: If charity for Sweet Cakes was verboten, why wasn’t it also verboten for Barronelle Stutzman, the Christian florist from Washington who’s also facing discrimination charges for declining to provide the flowers for a longtime gay customer’s marriage ceremony? With help from Dana Loesch, the GoFundMe page for Stutzman had apparently already reached six figures. And now suddenly it’s gone, likely the next victim in GFM’s left-appeasing policy of treating discrimination allegations about a religious business owner’s objection to gay marriage as too heinous for a respectable business to tolerate.
Winner!GORDON wrote:"Go Fund Yourself"
South park beat you to it.GORDON wrote:I think the market is now ripe for a gofundme alternative called "Go Fund Yourself" that actively goes after the people gofundme drops.
Go Fund Me has decided it is not excellent to allow people to raise money for legal defense.
http://tinyurl.com/laxlx5l
Has begun closing accounts of people accused of discrimination.
Leisher wrote:Go Fund Me has decided it is not excellent to allow people to raise money for legal defense.
http://tinyurl.com/laxlx5l
Has begun closing accounts of people accused of discrimination.
This sort of shit is what I was talking about in my rant earlier in this chain.
It's the same rules for everyone. If you want to operate a biz, you must follow the state's rules. If you don't like them, move to another state or get your own. If you want to use GoFundMe to raise cash, you have to follow their rules. If you don't like them, get your own server, your own DNS, your own web pages.Vince wrote:Either it's okay or it isn't. When you have two sets of rules for different people is what's historically led to insurrections.
Why does gofundme get to make their own rules, but the bakery doesn't?Malcolm wrote:It's the same rules for everyone. If you want to operate a biz, you must follow the state's rules. If you don't like them, move to another state or get your own. If you want to use GoFundMe to raise cash, you have to follow their rules. If you don't like them, get your own server, your own DNS, your own web pages.Vince wrote:Either it's okay or it isn't. When you have two sets of rules for different people is what's historically led to insurrections.
Because GoFundMe isn't operating in the state of Oregon, where a biz may not discriminate against customers because of the sexual preference. If GoFundMe was HQ'd in a place that prohibited discrimination based on your legal status, then they'd be doing something illegal, much like the bakers are.GORDON wrote:Why does gofundme get to make their own rules, but the bakery doesn't?Malcolm wrote:It's the same rules for everyone. If you want to operate a biz, you must follow the state's rules. If you don't like them, move to another state or get your own. If you want to use GoFundMe to raise cash, you have to follow their rules. If you don't like them, get your own server, your own DNS, your own web pages.Vince wrote:Either it's okay or it isn't. When you have two sets of rules for different people is what's historically led to insurrections.