INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL

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New Indy takes place in, or soon after, 1957.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=21811
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Intersting, that's 20 years later than all the others.
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So........ no nazis?
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It doesn't completely rule out nazis. After all, this whole series is based on the Saturday seriels style of entertainment, and secret post-war nazis were pretty popular as villians.
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I thought it was supposed to be the commies?
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It now has an official name.

http://www.mania.com/55948.html
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The fourth installment of the Indy franchise stars Harrison Ford...

Good.
... Shia LaBeouf...

Fucking flavour of the month.
...Cate Blanchett...

Damn, her career has taken off since Lord of the Rings.
...Karen Allen...

Eh, respectable, I guess.
...John Hurt.

Sweet. I still remember his stunning performance as Joe the Bartender opposite Clive Owen.
Director Steven Spielberg is currently shooting the film...

Damnit.
George Lucas is returning as executive producer...

GODDAMNIT.
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Appears that Indy will be doing many "I'm gettin' too old for this shyte"-type jokes. I can let that go since it is Indy. But, goddamnit, Shia is just killing it for me.
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Not horrible. Better then Temple of Doom. But nowhere near as good as Last Crusade or Raiders.

Although it does get rather silly in places and all the plot points are so completely spelled out way in advance that the stupidist audience member can be sure to figure everything out well before our heros put the puzzle together.
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I heard a lot of bad stuff, but my "willing suspension of disbelief" was strong enough that I enjoyed the movie.

I disliked the monkey part, though. That was pushing it.

And I disliked the CGI stuff at the end. Some of those rocks looked like video game rocks.

I also thought some stuff was missing. Like... an explanation for the destructive chaos at the end.
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Oxley gave a bit of an explanation for that with an offhand comment ... but I'll wait for a spoiler thread to appear.
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Did you spend the entire film wishing Shia LaWhatever would just keel over & die?
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Nah, not the entire film.

But the more I think about it, the more I have to admit that this sequal to <small><s>ET</s></small> Indiana Jones was kinda crappy.




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TPRJones wrote:Not horrible. Better then Temple of Doom. But nowhere near as good as Last Crusade or Raiders.

Although it does get rather silly in places and all the plot points are so completely spelled out way in advance that the stupidist audience member can be sure to figure everything out well before our heros put the puzzle together.
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Finally got around to seeing this o'er Thanksgiving.

I'll fall in w\ TPR's assessment : it wasn't as bad as Temple of Doom (nowhere near as good as Raiders or Crusade, though). Much as I hate (and I mean fucking hate w\ a passion) Shia LaBoeuf, he's ten million percent less annoying than that damn Korean kid & the chick (Kate Capshaw) who was in the film simply cos she was fucking Spielberg at the time. And Karen Allan returning was rather pleasant considering my other favourite characters (Indy's father, Marcus, & Sallah) all weren't there for one reason or another.

There were some damn good scenes. The "I like Ike" one made me laugh my ass off for a few minutes.

There were some hard-to-watch scenes, mostly of Harrison's stuntman doing his thing w\ me knowing there's no way in hell it's actually a middle-aged man doing that shyte, but alright, I'll forgive that. The motorcycle chase would've been umpteen zillion times more fun if Indy had swiped the kid's bike & done the driving. I'll even give a pass to the infamous refrigerator scene, cos it was the culmination of the opening sequence (which has set the tone of cool in every Indy flick).

The one scene that DID make me throw my hands up in the air & say, "WHAT THE FUCK," was the jungle vine-swinging/monkey thing during a particular chase. Then there was the general wtfness resulting from the insinuation that the skull was radiating this immensely powerful magnetic field. I used to spend a couple dozen hours a week in MRI tubes. Field strength that high does weird, unpleasant shyte. The plot seemed to forget/ignore this fact when convenient, i.e., most of the flick.

Thought the villainess was rather underused, too. & the two G-Men from the beginning, I thought they'd be more involved.

All in all, not bad. Nowhere near the ass-whoopingness of Raiders or Crusade.




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Malcolm wrote:The one scene that DID make me throw my hands up in the air & say, "WHAT THE FUCK," was the jungle vine-swinging/monkey thing during a particular chase.
Those are the exact words someone in the theater I saw it in exclaimed at that point in the movie.

What the fuck, indeed.
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Something I realized recently:

I felt the movie was a little heavy-handed in the "McCarthyism/present day war on terror" parallels. There's a specific line in the movie where someone said a line, when referring to the government violating civil liberties while looking everywhere for Ruskies, to the effect of the government is being overly paranoid.

Yet the movie started with an entire platoon of Soviets tearing through the American southwest with impunity, and easily gaining access to what were arguably the greatest secrets America had.

Yeah, sounds like the government isn't looking for Ruskies hard enough.




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GORDON wrote:Yeah, sounds like the government isn't looking for Ruskies hard enough.
Two things I disagree w\...

(1) They were looking plenty hard enough sometimes, just not in the right places.
(2) There's a distinct difference between "looking" and "attempting to crucify without proof."

I'm definitely in the Gregory House camp on this shit, though, "Everyone lies."

Lemme put it this way. Do you think the U.S. gov't is looking for terrorists? Wouldn't you like it if they took all the energy spent making sure I can't carry toothpaste on a plane & used it to do actual anti-terror-type work? That sort of stupid shit.
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I'm just saying there were mixed messages, and they were retarded.
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