Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:05 am
How dare white people.
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:30 pm
Flag probably gone.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:47 pm
Fuckwits teach statues a lesson.
Lee's words on slavery:
Granted, the words right after it are:
The statues were of Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederate States, General Robert E. Lee and Texas commander Albert Sydney Johnson.
Lee's words on slavery:
In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages.
Granted, the words right after it are:
I think it however a greater evil to the white man than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:52 pm
It'd be a HUGE gesture if black people would spray paint Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson as well.
Part of the solution is to stop pretending only people with white skin are the problem.
Part of the solution is to stop pretending only people with white skin are the problem.
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:21 pm
No flag for you, Dukes of Hazzard fans.
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:11 pm
Confederate flag = bad. ISIL flag = ok.
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:31 pm
Malcolm wrote:No flag for you, Dukes of Hazzard fans.
No Dukes anymore, either.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:17 pm
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:32 pm
That guy has a point though.
How did the Confederate Flag factor into the shooter? Why is that flag a symbol of racism other than just a matter of opinion? It's a legit part of history. Banning it is censorship.
I don't understand where this push to ban the flag came from nor why it has so much traction. You're not "healing" anyone by banning the flag, and you're actually doing the opposite.
How did the Confederate Flag factor into the shooter? Why is that flag a symbol of racism other than just a matter of opinion? It's a legit part of history. Banning it is censorship.
I don't understand where this push to ban the flag came from nor why it has so much traction. You're not "healing" anyone by banning the flag, and you're actually doing the opposite.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:35 pm
Absolutely nothing bad can come from scrubbing from existence the parts of history that we don't like.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:50 pm
Absolutely nothing bad can come from scrubbing from existence the parts of history that we don't like.
I mean, it's BAD!!!! Let's get rid of it. It's not we can learn from it and avoid making the same mistakes!
Hell, the fucktards running this country openly state how they're trying to mimic Europe because Europe's doing SO WELL...
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:18 pm
“I don’t see that this incident has any bearing on the flag or the flag has bearing on the incident,” he said of the shooting. “Racism exists no matter whether you try to use the flag as a symbol for that or not. …We cannot erase our heritage based on the actions of one deranged individual.”
Logic has no place within the realm of gov't.
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:16 pm
Indeed. None of this is about facts or logic or reason. It's because the flag makes some people feel bad.
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:02 pm
But... the KKK flies that flag. Along with the Christian flag and Ol' Glory as well. But never mind all that!
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:21 pm
Weird-ass kid. If he was racist, he did a fine job hiding it from most people he knew.
Looks like his stepmom was a bit dim.
In an interview with The New York Daily News, Mr. Roof’s former stepmother, Paige Mann, said she raised him while his father traveled up to four days a week. She described her stepson as “a loner and quiet and very smart — too smart.”
“He was locked in his room looking up bad stuff on the computer,” she said. “Something on the computer drew him in — this is Internet evil.”
Looks like his stepmom was a bit dim.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:50 pm
Has the flag been officially banned? As far as I've read, it has only been taken down from government buildings and is no longer being sold openly at department stores, two things which were always in poor taste.
As long as you can still see it in memorials and textbooks and hang one on your house if you're an ostentatious prick, I don't think I have a problem.
As long as you can still see it in memorials and textbooks and hang one on your house if you're an ostentatious prick, I don't think I have a problem.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:32 pm
It comes down to this: freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from speech. More specifically, the fact that we have the freedom to have any damn flag we want is good, but along with it comes the freedom for people who don't like that flag to criticize and judge. If you take away the latter then you might as well also give up the former.
Talk of how it's been "banned" when it certainly hasn't is just as counter to the whole idea of freedom of speech as those who talk about actually banning it.
Talk of how it's been "banned" when it certainly hasn't is just as counter to the whole idea of freedom of speech as those who talk about actually banning it.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:34 pm
Something I have been contemplating.... even though such a thing may not be officially "banned," what does it mean when a person may say a perfectly legal but unpopular thing, and folks band together to destroy their livelihood? Maybe it isn't the government doing it, but it's still pretty bad when the mob does it.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:46 pm
It's an undesirable consequence of our freedoms. You can't stop it by law without weakening the fundamental structure.
But you can form your own counter mob to destroy the first mob.
EDIT: The other alternative is to consider; is freedom of speech still viable in a world where speech goes global instead of just to your immediate neighbors? The world is a different place than it was when the Bill of Rights was written. Personally I think the downside of the occasional mob is less damaging than scrapping the whole thing, but some other people might disagree.
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But you can form your own counter mob to destroy the first mob.
EDIT: The other alternative is to consider; is freedom of speech still viable in a world where speech goes global instead of just to your immediate neighbors? The world is a different place than it was when the Bill of Rights was written. Personally I think the downside of the occasional mob is less damaging than scrapping the whole thing, but some other people might disagree.
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:23 pm
Well then I guess it'll be war.TPRJones wrote:But you can form your own counter mob to destroy the first mob.