The Amazon Tax

Post by **GORDON** » Fri May 02, 2008 11:58 am

Amazon sues the State of New York.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008....hnology

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Fri May 02, 2008 12:15 pm

I find it unlikely that "tax them" will be overturned by "don't tax them."

Post by **GORDON** » Fri May 02, 2008 12:43 pm

I just hate how every time there's a law someone doesn't like, it is refered to as a "loophole." No, it isn't a loophole. They actually meant it when they said companies didn't need to collect sales taxes for states in which they had no physical presence.

Post by **TPRJones** » Fri May 02, 2008 3:37 pm

From the way it's written, the most likely result will be that affiliates and referrers will no longer be allowed if they have a New York address. That'd be a lot cheaper then not doing business with the state at all, and would accomplish the same goal of having them avoid having to collect the tax.

Post by **GORDON** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:49 am

Open rebellion from newegg.com. They said FUCK THIS and stopped collecting sales tax in NY.

http://news.slashdot.org/news/08/08/27/0230233.shtml

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:06 am

Good.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:58 pm

Interesting to see what New York does now.

Post by **GORDON** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:59 pm

Still trying for the amazon tax:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13....sArea.0

If a little-known but influential alliance of state politicians, large retailers, and tax collectors have their way, the days of tax-free Internet shopping may be nearly over.

A bill expected to be introduced in the U.S. Congress as early as Monday would rewrite the ground rules for mail order and Internet sales by eliminating what its supporters view as a "loophole" that, in many cases, allows Americans to shop over the Internet without paying sales taxes.

Yes, we really need to tax our way out of this recession. Now more than ever.

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:56 pm

More on the amazon tax:

http://www.butasforme.com/2009....hopping

More on Obama's campaign promises:

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post....mZkN2M=

In order to save our children from a future of debt, we will also end the tax breaks for the wealthiest 2% of Americans. But let me perfectly clear, because I know you’ll hear the same old claims that rolling back these tax breaks means a massive tax increase on the American people: if your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not one single dime.

Funny... if they start taxing amazon, it is going to cost me more than a dime in taxes. Something is askew.

Mommy Dearest · Post by **Mommy Dearest** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:38 pm

Hate to tell you but this is nothing new. For at least seven years there has been a line on the State of Ohio tax forms to report any and all internet purchases that you have not paid sales tax on. The only new thing is that the states want the feds to govern the whole process so that it can be collected from the source rather than expecting the taxpayer to volutarily pay this tax. Nothing to see here folks. Move along please.

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:21 am

So all 50 states have that "internet purchases" on their tax forms?

Post by **GORDON** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:49 am

I guess Obama was speaking for Ohio when he said "no new taxes, not one dime." Everyone else got lied to, though.

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Mommy Dearest · Post by **Mommy Dearest** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:10 pm

Don';t know about all 50 but would guess anyone with a sales tax has it. Mi and Oh for sure. And it is not new, about 5 years old. They actually call it a Use Tax lol

Mommy Dearest · Post by **Mommy Dearest** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:12 pm

A couple of interesting excise taxes I ran into today that are also not new.

Excise taxes on:

Fishing rods
Fishing reels
tackle boxes
Arrow Shafts.

Put your imagination to work and figure those out.

Post by **GORDON** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:22 pm

What is an excise tax.

Post by **TPRJones** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:31 pm

Texas has (and has had it from when the sales tax was first passed) a Use Tax of 8% as well. Individuals and business are supposed to file and pay 8% tax on all untaxed purchases that were untaxed for non-approved reasons. As written this would include all untaxed internet purchases, although I've never seen nor heard of that being enforced.

In practice only businesses do it, and likely not all of them.

Post by **GORDON** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:51 pm

Well, philosophically speaking, is an unenforced tax that no one pays... actually a tax? And is the amazon tax now going to be enforced, which is going to be tax money that I didn't used to pay, and now I am? I know for a fact it will reduce my online expenditures by whatever the percentage of the tax, is. I have a fixed monthly amount that I have put aside for frivolous expenditures. That amount will soon be reduced by X%, because of these politicians.

But since I'm the only person in the country this will affect, I'm sure there will be no long term effects on manufacturers who sell on amazon.

Post by **TPRJones** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:54 pm

Technically as a citizen of Texas I could perhaps get away with not paying this new tax by paying my Texas Use Tax. 'Cause then I'd be double-taxed.

If nothing else that's enough standing to start a lawsuit over it.

Post by **TheCatt** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:52 pm

I've been paying estimated use taxes to NC, so it's here as well.

Post by **Vince** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:17 pm

Not in TN