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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:33 pm
by Malcolm
You can't clamp down on cyberspace. You can try, but it will fail.
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It's one of those sorts of technologies that, once discovered, cannot be contained. Not without using wide-scale destruction to accomplish the job.

Exhibit A that the U.S. gov't isn't adverse to trying.

...people will just set up ad-hoc networks and recreate the internet in an inefficient but nonetheless effective manner.

Effectiveness is relative. It would suck.

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:23 pm
by GORDON
I can see NICs being outlawed, hunted, and destroyed. About all you could do to drive the net underground.

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:31 am
by TPRJones
Malcolm wrote:
...people will just set up ad-hoc networks and recreate the internet in an inefficient but nonetheless effective manner.
Effectiveness is relative. It would suck.
At first, sure, but pretty quickly technology would adjust from being geared towards big fat centralized pipes to a completely distributed network, and it would get better.

I think this is eventually where we need to go, anyway, so I say to them bring it on. It'll just push us towards the future. IMO.

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:55 pm
by Malcolm
I'd rather be pushed when there aren't razorblades on my slip-and-slide.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:49 pm
by Leisher
FBI goes after Lulz Security.

In the comments they talk about how a 19 year old, that the article claims is the guy in charge of Lulz Security, was arrested, but I can't find that in the articles I'm seeing on the subject.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:33 pm
by TPRJones
That would be Ryan Cleary they are talking about. He runs an IRC server that LulzSec used for their IRC chat room. Along with lots of other IRC chat rooms.

So of course, according to police, that makes him the ringleader of LulzSec. Which seems a little desperate to pin it all on someone fast, to me.

Honestly, so far the authorities look more like the keystone kops on this one. Hell the FBI doesn't even know the difference between a single server and a server rack. That sort of thing doesn't make them look very competent.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:58 pm
by Malcolm
TPRJones wrote:Honestly, so far the authorities look more like the keystone kops on this one. Hell the FBI doesn't even know the difference between a single server and a server rack. That sort of thing doesn't make them look very competent.

I've met data recovery/computer forensics specialists from the public, private, and academic sectors.

The ones that worked in the private sector were usually stand-up cats, and more than a few were frighteningly knowledgeable about how to swipe goddamn near every bit of info off your machine.

The academic ones were either too socially inept to hack it in the real world, suffered from Aquaman syndrome, or were just lazy.

The ones in the public sector, the gov't ones, were the least impressive. They didn't strike me as IT specialists. It's like they found some cops who had a computer science hobby and trained them in very narrow ways. And they all came off like authoritarian pricks with Napoleon complexes, like the nerds that nerds pick on.




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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:04 pm
by Leisher
[url=http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/27/lulzsec-disbands-final-attack-reveals-hundreds-of-thousands-of-battlefield-heroes-password s/]Lulzsec disbands.[/url]

Maybe the feds' raid hit a bit too close to home?

Lulzsec’s end comes a week after the arrest of Ryan Cleary, who was suspected of being involved with the group. Earlier this week Lulzsec themselves were hacked by a group calling themselves The A-Team, who released Lulzsec members’ personal information and chat logs onto the Internet.




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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:36 pm
by TheCatt

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:51 pm
by TheCatt
Apparently deciding on whether or not you want your born-with penis, is lullsy.