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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:07 pm
by Malcolm
Which dead Greek dude was that? Aristotle? Goddamnit, Epicurus.
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:45 am
by Leisher
I really like the sentiment, but I disagree almost completely with everything else about it.
Whenever something like this occurs, two of the first things blamed are guns and video games.
Something like this, while nice in sentiment, seems to accept guilt. I realize that isn't the intent, but it comes off like that. For example: How many .gifs do you see saying in honor of those killed let's not watch sports this weekend? Or do anything sexual? Or cook? Or watch violent TV shows/movies? Etc...
So why should gamers take this action? Why are we the "guilty" ones?
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:03 am
by TPRJones
Yeah, somebody didn't think that through clearly.
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:26 am
by Malcolm
Wait a fucking second. He's just putting down his controller and NOT PLAYING GAMES? How the fuck does that do anything? You'll be doing just as much ignoring as before. There's not one coherent thought in that expression, just confused, unconscious guilt.
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:43 pm
by Malcolm
China has problem with school <s>shootings</s> stabbings.
Security guards restrained him before any fatalities occurred. Then again, this is China, so that could all be swept under the rug.
In one of the worst incidents, a man described as an unemployed, middle-aged doctor killed eight children with a knife in March 2010 to vent his anger over a thwarted romantic relationship.
Obviously, the lack of guns keeps people alive. Does a knife allow the sole psycho assailant to rack up a lower body count? Potentially. Know what could've kept it lower? A motherfucker with a gun and a couple centre mass shots.
On a daily basis, we trust 16 year olds in this country with multi-ton death machines that can go in excess of 100mph. But we draw the line at firearms, alcohol, and tobacco for unknown, baffling reasons.
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:30 pm
by Malcolm
More idiocy. Remember how certain songs couldn't be played on the radio after September 11th? Yeah, that really made a fucking difference.
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:51 pm
by Malcolm
Just to give you an idea what type of bloke this was...
Investigators have found no letters or diaries that could explain the attack, even as more fragments of Lanza's life emerged.
As a teenager, Lanza was so painfully shy that he would not speak or look at anyone when he came in for a haircut about every six weeks, always accompanied by his mother, said stylists in the Newtown hair salon Lanza frequented.
Cutting Adam Lanza's hair "was a very long half an hour. It was a very uncomfortable situation," stylist Diane Harty said, adding that she never heard his voice.
Another stylist, Jessica Phillips, said Nancy Lanza would give her son directions about what to do and where to go. He would move only "when his mother told him to," said a third stylist, Bob Skuba.
Yep. Totally a gun problem. Nothing else wrong here.
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:59 pm
by thibodeaux
Malcolm wrote:On a daily basis, we trust 16 year olds in this country with multi-ton death machines that can go in excess of 100mph. But we draw the line at firearms, alcohol, and tobacco for unknown, baffling reasons.
But GUUUNS are designed only to KIIIIILLLLL! Waaaah!
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:27 pm
by Leisher
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:15 am
by Leisher
The lunatic fringe are actually claiming there were three gunmen and the purpose of the shooting was so the government has an excuse to ban guns.
Sometimes I hate the internet.
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:07 pm
by Malcolm
Some dude makes the points I've been making for a bit now.
The National Safety Council calculates the odds of dying of various things ranging from heart disease to fireworks. In its latest report (actually 2008 data), the NSC points out that you have a 1 in 321 chance of dying from assault by a firearm.
Other things at the top of the list are heart disease (1 in 6), cancer (1 in 7), motor vehicle incidents (1 in 98), suicide (1 in 109), poisoning (1 in 126), riding in a car (1 in 368) and being a pedestrian (1 in 701). At the bottom of the risk list are floods (1 in 588,896) and fireworks (1 in 652,046). By the way, fireworks are banned in many states.
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:52 pm
by TheCatt
1% of people die by suicide?
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:05 pm
by Malcolm
Of the people who will die, on average 1 in 109 are from some form of suicide in this country, I guess.
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:42 pm
by TheCatt
That seems insanely high to me.
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:00 pm
by Malcolm
TheCatt wrote:That seems insanely high to me.
According to other stats in '09, looks like 12 of every 100K U.S. deaths was suicide.
12 / 100,000 = 0.12 %
Article looks to be off by a factor of 10 maybe?
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:37 pm
by Leisher
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:56 pm
by Leisher
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:51 pm
by Malcolm
I wish Rock Hudson still walked this globe like a colossus of badassery so he could beat the shit out of those fundie psychos.
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:53 pm
by Malcolm
More dumbassery. Anyone who brings in the argument, "Won't somebody please think of the children," has already done a fine job convincing me they're 99.99999% likely full of shit.
My final class, ever, at Tech was on 2nd floor of Norris Hall, where the massacre took place. Not to sound over dramatic, but it is like a better part of my teens and 20s died that day. After that day, I went through a period, six months or so, where I hardly played anything. Slowly, my world returned to "normal," and eventually I was able to again enjoy the release my favorite hobby provided.
He's talking about the Virginia Tech shooting. But he gets insane later on.
Unfortunately, there is no going back now. Not this time. Everything's different.
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But second, and most importantly, is my almost-two-year-old son. The children killed in Newtown were only a few years older than him. 20 little kids, no different than my own, are gone.
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I don't want to explain to my son why daddy is shooting the guys on the television. Why that's okay, but when it happens in real life, people cry.
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:35 pm
by Malcolm
From here.
"We've had this unwritten code, even among criminals, that schools are off limits. Those are our kids. You don't mess with that," Utah Shooting Sports Council (USSC) Chairman Clark Aposhian told ABCNews.com today.
What fucking world do you live in? The same one where George Costanza has an agreement with the pigeons and squirrels?
But wait, there's plenty of stupidity to go around...
Carol Lear, the (Utah) board (of education)'s director of school law and legislation, was more blunt about Aposhian's gun training, telling the Associated Press, "It's a terrible idea...It's a horrible, no-good, rotten idea."
