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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 11:39 pm
by GORDON
I wonder why they don't send an expandable hose down the broken shaft and then inflate it to plug the hole.

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:02 am
by Troy
GORDON wrote:I wonder why they don't send an expandable hose down the broken shaft and then inflate it to plug the hole.
I've heard the PSI involved with the leak is massive.

It's hard to put anything on it and having it stay.

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:19 am
by unkbill
Vince wrote:
Troy wrote:Let go ahead and add that I'm not against drilling, it's sort of a necessary evil, and that there are tons of rigs that do this without ecological disasters. But I don't totally understand how rigs that are designed to withstand Cat 5 Hurricanes can not have enough safety systems to stop the flow of oil in the event of an explosion or accident.
The problem wasn't the rig. If you ever watched Armageddon and there's the scene where the Armadillo hits the gas pocket? That's pretty much what happened. And actual rig explosion isn't that big of a deal to contain. The pretty much just seal the top of the piping until the platform can be replaced or repaired and they start up again. This blew everything out right at the ocean floor (from my understanding).
From what I watched three weeks before the accident a controller bumped a joystick arm which put thousands of pounds of pressure on the safety plug. Rubber chunks started coming up from the damaged gasket, ignored. The day it blew the head BP and the head driller get into a chest thumping battle. BP wins and plugs the well in a new not as safe way and isn't detected because the rubber gasket is damaged which gives the wrong pressure readings, but it will save time when the pump rig comes in.
The same day the cluster fuck unfolds.

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:38 am
by Leisher
I wonder why they don't send an expandable hose down the broken shaft and then inflate it to plug the hole.


Fuck you man.

I tried my best, but it's hard to stay excited while holding your breath that long.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:59 pm
by TPRJones
Interesting video. Apparently even if it does take nine months to fix the problem, the environment will bounce back. It did before.

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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:27 pm
by Malcolm
I still can't believe they've got this thing pumping out oil. Your engineers suck, BP. You've tried at least half a dozen options & they've all failed. A freshman physics frat could probably out-think your team.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:21 pm
by thibodeaux
Unlike perhaps 99% of people commenting on the oil spill, I actually know people who know something about the oil business. Quite a few of my family members work or have worked on oil rigs all over the world. My uncle was basically boss of rigs (I forget his actual title) and my cousin co-founded a directional drilling company. Their take: the only thing that's going to work is the offset well.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:42 pm
by GORDON
Very large cork.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:33 pm
by Malcolm
thibodeaux wrote:Unlike perhaps 99% of people commenting on the oil spill, I actually know people who know something about the oil business. Quite a few of my family members work or have worked on oil rigs all over the world. My uncle was basically boss of rigs (I forget his actual title) and my cousin co-founded a directional drilling company. Their take: the only thing that's going to work is the offset well.
Then they just went through pretending all that other crap had a snowball's chance in hell?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:16 pm
by thibodeaux
Who knows?

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:43 pm
by Malcolm
If they just would've said, straight up, "This is going to take a few months before we can show any visible progress," then I wouldn't be on them as much. As it stands, they're trying (badly) to spin things every time one of their "surefire" methods chokes.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:58 am
by Leisher
BP and their engineers, who do this shit for a living, can't get the job done, so the feds turn to...Hollywood.

Seriously.

What. The. Fuck.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:16 am
by thibodeaux
He's rich, therefore he must be smart.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:18 am
by thibodeaux

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:40 am
by Malcolm

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:08 am
by Troy
You guys can't be that shocked that they are looking at outside thinking. James Cameron certainly is an odd choice for that, though.

This is a fuckup of epic proportions. Today I believe the engineers are trying another "cut the pipe" method. Which has the added byproduct of increasing the spill rate by 20% or so.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:40 am
by Malcolm
Troy wrote:You guys can't be that shocked that they are looking at outside thinking. James Cameron certainly is an odd choice for that, though.

This is a fuckup of epic proportions. Today I believe the engineers are trying another "cut the pipe" method. Which has the added byproduct of increasing the spill rate by 20% or so.
Only if they fuck it up. & they haven't fucked up yet. Oh wait...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:51 am
by GORDON
Saw last night BP's stock has fallen by... 40%? I think it was 40%. Was tired at the time.

Pretty good incentive for companies to not fuck up again in the future... but I am sure we will get more government control/off shore drilling bans out of this.

And, more expensive gas and reliance on mid east oil.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:52 am
by unkbill
Malcolm wrote:
Troy wrote:You guys can't be that shocked that they are looking at outside thinking. James Cameron certainly is an odd choice for that, though.

This is a fuckup of epic proportions. Today I believe the engineers are trying another "cut the pipe" method. Which has the added byproduct of increasing the spill rate by 20% or so.
Only if they fuck it up. & they haven't fucked up yet. Oh wait...
From what I heard on the news this morning every procedure that they have tried would have worked at 200 feet. It is the depth that is raising all the hell. Oh and the fact that it happened in the first place.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:57 am
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Saw last night BP's stock has fallen by... 40%? I think it was 40%. Was tired at the time.

Pretty good incentive for companies to not fuck up again in the future... but I am sure we will get more government control/off shore drilling bans out of this.

And, more expensive gas and reliance on mid east oil.
Hopefully the engineers that look after the nuclear plants are more competent than the ones that drill into the water.