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My wife and I discussed this show tonight. She listened to Netflix's "just watch it" and tried. She shut it off halfway through. She said it's crazy disgusting.

She said an 11 year old girl does the WAP dance for grown men who are security guards. It was so she could get out of trouble or something. If that's the lesson you want to teach your girls, I guess no issue, right?

She also said there was nudity involving the kids. TV-MA or not, that's supposed to be illegal.

I also didn't know this was a movie and not a documentary.

My wife is a dance mom. Three daughters who have all danced for various studios and theater companies. She's not a bible thumper. She is shocked Netflix thinks this film is fine.

I guess, at the very least, Netflix should have edited out the nudity.

I couldn't finish watching "Big Mouth." Turned it off during the naked kid locker room dance.

I don't think anyone should be cancelled because it offended my delicate sensibilities.

A cartoon is vastly different from actual kids being undressed and sexualized in a movie.

It's like that case we discussed a few years back about the guy in Southern Ohio who wrote erotic stories for pedos. He was arrested for it, but as he wasn't actually hurting anyone everyone here disagreed with the arrest. He's not someone you should hire to babysit, but he really did nothing illegal.

Leisher wrote: A cartoon is vastly different from actual kids being undressed and sexualized in a movie.

The film is French. When I was in Italy last (a while ago), I remember seeing lots of prepubescent kids just running around naked at the beach. Or pre-pubescent girls just wearing bottoms, not tops, since they had no boobs. It wasn't sexualized, just normal. But, it was weird to me.

I dunno.

I can excuse cultural differences in regards to what the director included.

Those differences do not excuse Netflix releasing the film in the States without editing that stuff out.

Leisher wrote: I can excuse cultural differences in regards to what the director included.

Those differences do not excuse Netflix releasing the film in the States without editing that stuff out.

So we're the Taliban now?

TheCatt wrote: So we're the Taliban now?

When it comes to getting children naked, yes.

I see prepubescent kids running around nude at beaches and lakes too. I get it. There's nothing wrong with that. However, they're not 10 or 11, they're 1-5.

Also, playing at the beach is pretty different from being in a movie where you're intentionally being sexualized.

Netflix has been indicted in Texas over Cuties.

I mean if a movie sexualizing children and featuring nude shots of children isn't child porn, what is?

It's super gross. Other countries (France and the ME, for starters) are culturally very different in their treatment of young children. But that shit doesn't fly in the USA.

I saw enough of the scenes that Netflix is going to get fucked for this in the US.

This is the last time I will defend this movie.... I fucking hate having to defend unpopular speech. But, unpopular speech is the only type that needs to be protected, isn't it.

An image of naked kids isn't illegal, child pornography is illegal. Some court will have to prove that this movie is intended to be pornographic. I do not believe that, ultimately, they will succeed in proving this. The writer and director has literally gone on the record and made her argument, and it's very believable.

And there were zero naked kids in this movie, anyway.

That is all I have to say about it.

GORDON wrote: And there were zero naked kids in this movie, anyway.

I thought leisher said otherwise? Like a topless prepube girl?

Topless ain't naked.

GORDON wrote:Topless ain't naked.

A toddler running on the beach topless isn't offensive or exploitative. Showing the asses and breasts of child actors in a film whose entire purpose is to sexualize children to show that it's a problem is 100% inappropriate nudity.

This isn't an unpopular speech issue.

The issue is the director should have made a documentary about the sexual exploitation of children instead of sexually exploiting children to make this fictional movie. Make this a documentary and blur any sort of nudity and it sends the proper message. Then only the religious right would be complaining about it.

Also, naked images of children can absolutely be illegal even if the photo is innocent. A picture of someone's kids in the tub is innocent. That same picture on Subway Jared's hard drive makes it sexual and illegal.