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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:16 pm
by Vince
GORDON wrote:Vince wrote:A lot of his connection to the story came from his being a father as well. I think there's a really strong human element.
Actually, I found that aspect of the trailers the most off-putting. The little kid crying "daddy please don't go" felt deliberately manipulative.
Not when you see it in context. Putting it in the trailer might have been but in the film It was a very normal reaction to what was happening.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:55 pm
by thibodeaux
Fave line in the movie was when Fantine asked him why didn't he tell his daughter he was leaving to save the world. He says something like, when you're trying to comfort a 10-year-old, telling them the world is in danger isn't the best way to do it.
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:48 pm
by GORDON
This is thinky-scifi more than it is action scifi. Worth at least one watch... I'll watch it again to pick up some lines I missed the first time around.
Also I predicted the twist way early on.
ALSO.... there was some implication that the greenies were in charge, and it makes me think the author of this movie has read, and was disturbed by, Fallen Angels, as much as I was.
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 10:06 pm
by Leisher
TPRJones wrote:Hmmm, the feedback I had heard was that the science was pretty good, but that it wasn't very good as a movie. That it failed with the human elements of character and dialogue. You would disagree?
As a father to daughters, I agree with the feedback below.
I can't get too into it without major spoilers (How does this movie not have a spoiler thread?), but the father daughter stuff either completely nailed it or completely missed it. It depended on the scene.
That applies to most of the relationships in the film. And while the dialogue might have sucked here and there, they hit some nice themes.
I do have a question related to this, why did Wheadon take shit over Black Widow in Avengers 2, but Nolan didn't take shit for Hathaway's motivations in this movie? They legit shit on a woman's ability to separate logic from emotions (true or not...).
I really enjoyed the movie, although push come to shove, my opinion was far higher until the final 15 or so minutes. It's worth seeing because it's a great concept, acted well, and directed well.
I also think Gordon might be onto something with the Fallen Angels thing. Something bad happened, and people were clearly dumber. I thought the school scene was brilliant.
Oh yeah, the robots are really cool.
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 6:33 am
by Vince
Leisher wrote:I do have a question related to this, why did Wheadon take shit over Black Widow in Avengers 2, but Nolan didn't take shit for Hathaway's motivations in this movie? They legit shit on a woman's ability to separate logic from emotions (true or not...).
My response to this question would be because we're at the point now where most of the outrage and accusing is now organized and planned and no longer organic. They approach it now with, "Is there strategic value in being outraged at this? Will we get the sort of coverage we want?"
Wheadon somewhat played into what they were looking for. Closing down his twit account was a bit against what they wanted (they would have wanted his conciliatory mea culpa there to start with), but his statements in interviews after fit their play book pretty well.
Nolan had already demonstrated what his reaction would have likely been with his second Batman movie. The left complained about him endorsing the war on terror and he pretty much just shrugged and ignored them and by ignoring them gave them an itty bitty platform with no bullhorn. Worse than losing their argument with him, he made them irrelevant.
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 9:38 am
by TPRJones
Vince wrote:Leisher wrote:I do have a question related to this, why did Wheadon take shit over Black Widow in Avengers 2, but Nolan didn't take shit for Hathaway's motivations in this movie? They legit shit on a woman's ability to separate logic from emotions (true or not...).
My response to this question would be because we're at the point now where most of the outrage and accusing is now organized and planned and no longer organic. They approach it now with, "Is there strategic value in being outraged at this? Will we get the sort of coverage we want?"
I disagree. I think the reason is as simple as, "You expect rational behavior from people that have clearly demonstrated that they are wildly irrational?"
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:27 am
by Vince
People protest in places where they aren't going to change anyone's mind all the time (Planned Parenthood for instance). The difference is, it isn't a marketing strategy for those people. For the militant feminists, it's a marketing strategy. Nolan wasn't going to get them the coverage they wanted because he generally tends to even engage the criticism. If you can't get your story to last longer than today's 24 hr news cycle, your marketing strategy has failed.
Interstellar came in much lower on the public awareness scale as compared to Avengers 2 as well. You want to hang on the coat tails where the coat tails are big and long.
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:34 am
by TPRJones
Sure, all of that is true. But I think you are ascribing too much conscious rationality to them. All the reasons you state why they should prefer to go after Whedon than Nolan are also reasons that - if they are just bumbling around doing whatever pops into their heads - they would be more likely to arbitrarily notice and go after Wheden instead of Nolan.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:13 pm
by TPRJones
I feel like I just watched Damon playing the Anti-Watney.
Enjoyable flick. Last 1/4 is mostly nonsense, but enjoyable nonsense.
Re: Interstellar
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:45 am
by TheCatt
I really loved this movie. Except the final 1-2 minutes, but whatever. And it was a little slow to get going. "We get it, there was a big war or something, and tons of people died, and the world is doomed... MOVE ON"
The middle of the movie was the best part. The ending... I have a problem with the plot device/twist, but whatevs, I enjoyed it.
Solid.