ouch! 5 crystals for one bow.. how much are those crystals going for? I guess I need to make a decision on where I wanna put my money next. I can spend the money to get 7 crystals and have a whole new set of armor or buy 5 and get a new bow.. hmm, decisions. either way, its not cheap.
What level armor are you considering? I'd imagine at least the conqueror's (tier 5) that's what I'm working on right now. If that's the case you gotta remember we'll have to start at the first tier armor and craft each set after that. The first two sets aren't that much of a problem materials wise but after that they start getting pricey. The big problem for me is the LP, it will cost me 700LP just to craft you a whole set of tier1 gear, and it just gets more expensive after that. I have no problem doing this but it will be a slower process and we can start building it over time. So if this is something you wanna do then we can look into it closer and see exactly what you will need and how much LP it will cost me.
ArcheAge - Formerly: "So I've been playing..."
I plopped down a ton of bears to up my chances a few days ago. One grew into a male, but it was "old blank shooter" that got studly again.
You can "cross pollinate" on farms. One of the female bears from my small farm got maybe-pregnant when I triggered the male bear on the big farm across the way.
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You can "cross pollinate" on farms. One of the female bears from my small farm got maybe-pregnant when I triggered the male bear on the big farm across the way.
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yeah, you get a rare chance of ending up with a polaris cub, that you grow like a horse. NOT THAT I HAVE SEEN ONE OF THESE YET! Fucking old blank shooter didn't to fire any past the goalie last time.
Supposedly it's 90% battlepet 10% mount or maybe the mount is even rarer.
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Supposedly it's 90% battlepet 10% mount or maybe the mount is even rarer.
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That describes everything horrible about this game.Stranger wrote:ouch! 5 crystals for one bow.. how much are those crystals going for? I guess I need to make a decision on where I wanna put my money next. I can spend the money to get 7 crystals and have a whole new set of armor or buy 5 and get a new bow.. hmm, decisions. either way, its not cheap.
What level armor are you considering? I'd imagine at least the conqueror's (tier 5) that's what I'm working on right now. If that's the case you gotta remember we'll have to start at the first tier armor and craft each set after that. The first two sets aren't that much of a problem materials wise but after that they start getting pricey. The big problem for me is the LP, it will cost me 700LP just to craft you a whole set of tier1 gear, and it just gets more expensive after that. I have no problem doing this but it will be a slower process and we can start building it over time. So if this is something you wanna do then we can look into it closer and see exactly what you will need and how much LP it will cost me.
The Korean or Zynga way (whatever you want to call it) sucks.
For those not in the know, apparently Koreans LOVE to grind.
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I've been seeing people recommend going to GHA (Greater Howling Abyss, yep just like LOL) for level 50 armors instead of going the hard and expensive crafting route. Its a 5 man level 50 dungeon located in Northern Hellswamp.
So for the best armors in the game that aren't crafted you go to GHA and for the best weapons you try and get those stones in Hasla. Something we should consider when we all get to 50.
Greater Howling Abyss is the popular LV50 5-players dungeon in ArcheAge, you can often see a lot of players farm this dungeon in northern Hellswamp of Western continent Nuia. When you up to LV50, the Greater Howling Abyss will give some really good armor sets and accessories for you. If you are a newbie farm this dungeon will take your 1-2 hours, but once you have run a few times for it, it is very easy and fast farm about 30 minutes.
So for the best armors in the game that aren't crafted you go to GHA and for the best weapons you try and get those stones in Hasla. Something we should consider when we all get to 50.
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I never left BL. Borderlands isn't a MMORPG. It's just a single player game that you can also play with friends if you choose to do so.TheCatt wrote:Come back to BL, Leisher.
I have every intention of buying BL2 the Prequel, but not at $60. I think that price is offensive. The top tier console games have always been at least $10 more than their PC versions. I'm not going to support raising PC prices just because console gamers got used to paying over-inflated prices. Just can't do it.
Add on the $20 season pass and that's an $80 game.
ArcheAge is fun and there's a LOT of content. ("Lot" is an understatement.) Very, very deep game and just a ton to love about it. They did 80% of the game right.
That other 20% though is stuff to HATE and it all revolves around crafting and the economy. Unlike in other games, anyone can craft basically anything. So where in UO, you had a main who focused combat and an alt that was your blacksmith or tailor or cook or weapon maker or whatever (if you had an alt), here your main can basically do it all. Granted it'll take a long time and a lot of gold to get there, but I'll get to that...
The point is that with this dynamic they break their own economy because nobody is really reliant upon anywhere else. Using my character as an example I'm at max level (50) and I have the game's best free armor and weapon from questing. They are fine. There are even better ones out there too that aren't player made, but from special areas that are too tough for people to do solo and gaining items in that area is a grind. You go in with a large group and as monsters die you all roll a virtual dice and the highest number gets the reward. That reward being random tokens that once you earn enough of can be traded in for these high level weapons/armor. I have no idea if these items are statistically better than the best player made stuff...?
Anyway, players can craft really good stuff, but it's a grind crafting to the good stuff and very expensive. Look at Stranger's description to see how ridiculous the system is to craft high level stuff and then understand that he hasn't mentioned the really low odds of getting better grades of items or the chance that an item is lost during the crafting process.
On top of that stupid system, there are labor points. Remember Zynga Facebook games where you got 30 energy a day for moves or you could purchase more energy with real money? Same system. If you're a paying member you can earn a total of 5000 labor points at which point your bank is full. You earn them at a rate of 10 per 5 minutes online or 5 per 5 minutes offline. You can also buy a Worker's Compensation Potion to restore 1000 labor points instantly, but that can only be used once every 12 hours.
And did I mention any example? Like there are 5 levels to bow making (that I've seen so far), and the lowest level takes 100 labor points to build a bow. The next is 200, the next 300, and so on. See the problem yet?
If you don't see how this game is designed to make you grind (IF you're a crafter), you're blind.
Now the argument is that this system helps to keep the game balanced. Casual players can keep up with hardcore players, but that simply isn't true. First of all, those hardcore players being online more are earning double the labor points. Secondly, it's not the hardcore players you need to think about, it's the players who spend real money. They can use real money to give themselves in game gold usually laundered by selling pricey items in the in game auction house, like the previously mentioned Worker's Compensation Potion. Now with that mass of gold, they can buy all the best items or the shortcuts around the grind.
It's exactly the same way that Zynga games worked.
It's very, very frustrating.
Want to know what's even more maddening? There's in game taxes and fees that always need to be paid. Own land? Pay taxes. Listing items on the Auction House? Pay fees (a percentage of their value and time listed). Buying off the Auction House? Pay fees (again, a percentage). Sending a fucking in game letter? Pay a fee based on if you want it delivered immediately or an hour later with additional charges per item you might attach to the letter! It's a system designed to hold you back. Not to the point where you're crippled, but to make your grind that much longer.
The economy is just broken and with the labor points limits what you can do. It makes it so that when your labor points are spent you're kind of wondering what you can do next, ala every Zynga game ever.
Trion could fix all of this overnight by locking characters so that you can only own 2 characters per server with a max of 1-2 mastered proficiencies allowed (combat ones included). Now your players would be dependent upon each other to fill in the gaps. The Auction House would have more meaning. People wouldn't be doing deals in all chat to avoid the stupid fees.
Did I mention that a LOT of the in game items get bound to you so that you can't sell them furthering the grind? Did I mention that they sell items for real world money and in game money that either can't be used for their intended purpose and/or aren't even implemented?
ArcheAge's broken ass crafting and economy aside, the rest of the game is great. I had a lot of fun on the raid last night.
That being said, I'll still be on every night playing it for the foreseeable future because most of the gaming group is playing it, there's a lot more in game I want to see and do, I AM having fun, there's no real competitor right now, etc., etc.
I just know that if UO had the player community it had then right now, I wouldn't be playing ArcheAge.
Sorry, I ranted there. That's how I honestly feel about the game though. I'm having fun, but I'm not blind to it's flaws. I am amazed TPR isn't playing though. The crafting system, while annoying is pretty damn deep.
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I also love the game.. I wake up everyday at 5:30 so I can harvest my turkey's and pig's, check the Auction house for any good deals and have a few cups of coffee before I head to work.
It can be a laid back casual game if you want, just farm or run trade packs. It can be PvP if you're looking for a little more fast paced action. It can be PvE and try and get good loot from AI. You can be a pirate and just dick everyone over if you like. You can just make a living off the Auction house if you were good at buying low selling high. I like the different ways you can play, its not always the same.
Just in our group alone everyone got to where they are in different ways. Cake, Troy and I did it by mostly getting land (some more than others!) and crafting. I didn't care to have as much land as Cake because I didn't want the stress of paying them taxes and grinding more than I do, I'm comfortable where I sit. But more power to him, that's the way he wanted to go about it and he's done well with it.
Leisher made his way by questing and being F2P for most of the time. That's excellent that he could go that route and be successful doing so. Now he's got himself some land and can make money in other ways.
Scooty went a different route himself. He wanted to pirate other peeps trade packs, PK, and be on the open seas. So he found himself a larger guild and is being successful in that way. I don't think the dude even has any land that I know of but somehow he's handing in 30 tradepacks at a time!! How the hell did he manage that?!
Now Cake's wife is playing, I'm not sure what her plan is but she will have her own story of how she got to where she is. I've heard she will prolly out farm all of us. She may end up with some of the best items in the game and never even leave her farm or see a PvP fight. But she can do that because it can be done!
To me that's the beauty of the game, you can make it what you want.
It can be a laid back casual game if you want, just farm or run trade packs. It can be PvP if you're looking for a little more fast paced action. It can be PvE and try and get good loot from AI. You can be a pirate and just dick everyone over if you like. You can just make a living off the Auction house if you were good at buying low selling high. I like the different ways you can play, its not always the same.
Just in our group alone everyone got to where they are in different ways. Cake, Troy and I did it by mostly getting land (some more than others!) and crafting. I didn't care to have as much land as Cake because I didn't want the stress of paying them taxes and grinding more than I do, I'm comfortable where I sit. But more power to him, that's the way he wanted to go about it and he's done well with it.
Leisher made his way by questing and being F2P for most of the time. That's excellent that he could go that route and be successful doing so. Now he's got himself some land and can make money in other ways.
Scooty went a different route himself. He wanted to pirate other peeps trade packs, PK, and be on the open seas. So he found himself a larger guild and is being successful in that way. I don't think the dude even has any land that I know of but somehow he's handing in 30 tradepacks at a time!! How the hell did he manage that?!
Now Cake's wife is playing, I'm not sure what her plan is but she will have her own story of how she got to where she is. I've heard she will prolly out farm all of us. She may end up with some of the best items in the game and never even leave her farm or see a PvP fight. But she can do that because it can be done!
To me that's the beauty of the game, you can make it what you want.
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Glad to see the action being taken against these botters and cheaters. Lots of people being banned.
Over 17,000 Botting, Hacking, or Spamming Accounts Banned
As players in-game just saw, we've announced that 10,000 accounts where third-party botting, hacking, or spamming software use was detected have now been banned. This is in addition to the 7,000 accounts banned last night for the same. Also, gold related to those accounts are being removed from the game's economy.
Accounts that were caught using third-party botting, hacking, or spamming software will not be unbanned. They're welcome to play on a new account legitimately.
Gold Being Removed: A Tale of Illicit Gains Coming to an End
A number of you have mentioned that you're seeing gold disappearing.
As we broadcasted in yesterday's initial blast of rapturing hackers, gold farming bots, mules, and storage accounts, we're now also taking the step of removing the gains passed on by them.
What that means is: If you bought or were gifted gold from one of them, you may see it disappear. We do have the ability to trace coin, and that's the gold that's being cleaned up right now.
The best bet is to not buy gold - It's the same people trying to crap up chat with spam and trying to fill the game with bots and landgrabs. If you bought gold from one of those sites, you are absolutely welcome to try to go back to them for a refund, but we will not be returning gold purchased or gifted from goldsellers and botters. It's off in the ether from whence it came.
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One day, you'll play a really good MMO and then you'll understand.
Archeage is fun and playable. But falls short in so many ways that it won't have a long life.
The economy. Blah. Leisher didn't make his fortunes by questing and leveling. Troy didn't make his with fucking bears. I didn't make mine by farming lots of land. We made it by winning the TS log lottery. Take those out of the game and we are all struggling with 50ish gold and wondering how to get more.
You CAN'T get rich by farming, crafting, etc. There is NO economy. You get NO reward for the grind, other than being able to make the item. There is no profit. Buy the materials, craft it, sell it. After auction fees, etc, your mark up is almost zero. You can't MAKE money by crafting, but you can save money by crafting. I plant a shit ton of plants. Grind them into various potions, each a higher level than the last. What I'm left with is 1000 potions that will sell for about 5% what I spent on them. But, since I can't make money in other ways, I have to craft them myself because I can't afford to just buy them. Economy is broken.
The rich people? Pirates. Watching them on Freedlich is insane. Think Solzreed dock times ten. They just sit there and farm all the idiots running trade packs right into them. Every once in a while, the blues will organize a massive push that the reds can't touch. But more often than not, someone is dropping 10 to 20 free trade packs off to them.
But, there's no better MMO right now, so, here we are. Making the best of a poor situation.
Sorry about MY rant. I just wish someone would make a good MMO, instead of a good money sucking thing that people have to settle for because they are so hungry for a good MMO.
This was Cake, by the way.
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Archeage is fun and playable. But falls short in so many ways that it won't have a long life.
The economy. Blah. Leisher didn't make his fortunes by questing and leveling. Troy didn't make his with fucking bears. I didn't make mine by farming lots of land. We made it by winning the TS log lottery. Take those out of the game and we are all struggling with 50ish gold and wondering how to get more.
You CAN'T get rich by farming, crafting, etc. There is NO economy. You get NO reward for the grind, other than being able to make the item. There is no profit. Buy the materials, craft it, sell it. After auction fees, etc, your mark up is almost zero. You can't MAKE money by crafting, but you can save money by crafting. I plant a shit ton of plants. Grind them into various potions, each a higher level than the last. What I'm left with is 1000 potions that will sell for about 5% what I spent on them. But, since I can't make money in other ways, I have to craft them myself because I can't afford to just buy them. Economy is broken.
The rich people? Pirates. Watching them on Freedlich is insane. Think Solzreed dock times ten. They just sit there and farm all the idiots running trade packs right into them. Every once in a while, the blues will organize a massive push that the reds can't touch. But more often than not, someone is dropping 10 to 20 free trade packs off to them.
But, there's no better MMO right now, so, here we are. Making the best of a poor situation.
Sorry about MY rant. I just wish someone would make a good MMO, instead of a good money sucking thing that people have to settle for because they are so hungry for a good MMO.
This was Cake, by the way.
Edited By Trooper on 1414012396
I am amazed TPR isn't playing though. The crafting system, while annoying is pretty damn deep.
I haven't been gaming much at all, lately. Haven't felt much up to it. I'm sure I'll get back into it one day soon, but I don't think ArcheAge is likely to be the game to do it.
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