I'm haven't seen anything 'Godzilla' kick ass since I was about 9, and that's not because it kicked ass, but because my standards were low.
Well, it's difficult to make great action scenes involving a monster that towers above a city. Not just on film, but anywhere.
When Stan Lee invented Galactus in the 50s/60s(?) and had him tower above New York, the only way the Fantastic Four could beat him was by threatening him with the "Cosmic Neutralizer". All the other action was basically him swatting them like flies.
The only action from the Godzilla films came when there was another giant sized monster to fight.
Perhaps with film technology the way it is now they can put together a good action scene between two giant monsters. It worked in the latest King Kong.
Also, if they retain the look of the teaser clip (hand held camera), it might work. I don't think they've ever made a giant monster movie that way before. It'd be like you are one of the people trying to survive Godzilla's rampage.
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Malcolm wrote:The "Bloop" recording was a massive sound that U.S. Navy listeners in the ocean picked up some years back. It had a tremendous amount of energy & sounds kinda like a creature, except there is no creature capable of such a transmission. Analysts tracked down the origin to some point in the sea that's very, very close to where Lovecraft said Ry'leh is.
Very interesting. In fact, it looks like 1997 was an interesting year for funny noises loud enough to be heard across the Pacific. In March there's a train whistle sort of noise, followed by an odd dropping-off noise in May, then the bloops all summer. Two years earlier, something said something like "Koothooloo" (tagged as "Julia") in March. Probably unrelated, though.
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TheCatt wrote:The bloop was 1231 miles from Cthulu's location.
"Very, very close" is relative.
Given the entire surface area of Earth, that's not bad.
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Hearing that it's not Godzilla kind of killed my buzz. Now I'll need to focus on getting over the "Godzilla ripoff" thoughts I'm sure I'll have when I first see the monster.
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GORDON wrote:Well, at least now we have the possibility of Cthulu.
While that would rock ass, I don't want J.J. getting anywhere near that tentacley dude. He'd fuck it up.
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When I first saw this clip, I didn't think the monster would be Cthulhu. Because Cthulhu stories rely so much on background information to produce a sense of escalating dread, and I didn't see how a bunch of young twenty-somethings in the middle of a party could possibly suddenly discover The Necronomicon and start unpuzzling lore about ancient cults and dead gods.
The clip suggests (but only suggests) that the movie is about the monster attacking. Which is usually only briefly reported in a Lovecraft story. Most of the stories are about the build-up to the attack, not the big spectacular attack itself.
But I re-thought this. Lovecraft's stories are by and large epistolatory -- that is, there is a narrator present, but mostly the narrator introduces "found documents" -- journal entries, letters back and forth between people, first-hand accounts by other witnesses to supernatural events. The sense of versimilitude in Lovecraft (and frankly the rather dry and boring presentation as well) comes from the accumulation of very real-seeming documentary evidence, all assembled and woven together in the framework of the story. The narrator tells the story, but he himself is often just a second-hand witness introducing each bit of documentary evidence he's come across. Often the narrator doesn't really do anything except read stuff, which he presents to you the reader, until on the last page he says "Oh dear I've gone insane" or an epilogue notes "PS, the guy who wrote all the stuff you just read had his head bitten off by a monster from another dimension. Investigators are calling it a suicide."
So, how would one adapt this style of storytelling to a film? Well, given the ubiquity of video, one might make a movie out of a multiple filmed bits of documentary evidence. A videotaped police interrogation of crazed murderer. Car-hood Cops-style video of a SWAT unit bursting into home of a lunatic cult hoarding guns (and finding strange things besides guns). The raw footage of a documentary about odd cults. And of course the clips we now know of, the digital camera or cell phone captures of the attack on NYC. Piecing these various "found documents" together to construct a fractured but logical narrative of the cataclysmic occurrence would basically mimic Lovecraft's literary style in film, in which the film pretends to be a post-hoc reconstruction of the strange events through assembled documentary evidence. But hopefully a bit less dry and tweedy, and a bit more whiz-bang and exciting.
So the clips we're seeing may actually be from the nearly the end of the movie, maybe at the end of Act Two or beginning of Act Three. The rest of it would be Blair Witch type stuff -- no big explosions, just a lot of strange happenings and foreshadowing.
Anyway, that's my theory.
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I just can't see it actually being Cthulu. I'd like it to be, but it won't.
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Does that fire appear to be rolling outward as if being shot or breathed out?
And what's with the fireballs from the explosion shooting into the air, popping, and then raining down on other parts of the city?
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Leisher wrote:Does that fire appear to be rolling outward as if being shot or breathed out?
And what's with the fireballs from the explosion shooting into the air, popping, and then raining down on other parts of the city?
Probably because it looks cool.
Like, Lady Liberty's head wouldn't cause a fiery explosion when it hits a building in real life... unless Gambit threw it, and he'd need Marvel Girl's strength for that.
As for that one dude's theory, the monster attack would be the payoff to all the creepy stuff. You don't spoil the payoff with advertising.
With Lovecraft, you know that creepy stuff is happening, butt don't know where it will lead. That unknown is a major part of his success. ANYTHING could happen. But to show the big fiery attack would be a spoiler.
I think it's just some fire-spewing monster movie.
Maybe a Balrog is back?
Maybe they're saving the monster for the sequel & this entire film will be a precursor.
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Like, Lady Liberty's head wouldn't cause a fiery explosion when it hits a building in real life
I suppose it would if it hit a gas line or something.
Didn't Miss Liberty's head look sort of small on the street?
Something else bugging me about the clip is the sequence of events:
-The party goers hear a roar. Now they are deep in the city, yet the sound is so loud and powerful that the building shakes, the power shuts down for a minute, and car alarms go off.
-They head up to the roof and while up there the explosion occurs.
-They head to the street and Miss Liberty's head comes flying at them.
Compare all those facts with the film poster and there are some discrepancies...
1. The roar was powerful enough to shake a building and knock out power? Image what it'd do if it was roaring right next to a building. Or maybe the monster was attacking something else that caused the shaking and power loss at the same time it roared? Also notice it's roar didn't seem to have the same effect later.
2. The explosion occured when they were on the roof, then the head came flying when they were on the street. That seems to indicate that the monster has the ability to do a long range attack causing the fireball and then later smacked the head through Manhattan. Or it carried the head into town did some damage and then tossed the head. The claw marks prove it has hands (probably) so I guess it's possible it carried it. But why would a monster carry a statue's head into the city?
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What's big, green, has claws, a tail, and is a giant?
But it's probably just a nod to Godzilla. The wiki says J.J. got the idea for a new monster when his kid bought some Godzilla toys.
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Of course, neither is this site, but J.J. was oddly passing out Slusho t-shirts at the San Diego comic-con. Rumor has it there are a lot of hints on the site.
One of the Ethan sites says to look to the stars for help. Check out the flavors section of the Slusho site and notice they are on a background of stars...?
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