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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:39 pm
by GORDON
http://www.mania.com/56519.html
I wonder what a strike is going to do to Season 4 of Battlestar.
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:41 pm
by Malcolm
I would so scab myself out if they just started hiring people.
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:10 pm
by DoctorChaos
The industry couldn't help but get better if they just started hiring people.
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:34 pm
by Leisher
According to an article linked off that article you linked...it will destroy this year's TV. (Except Lost and 24.)
Actually, this might be the best thing for some shows.
NBC is pondering airing "The Office" (The English original version).
However, if I'm a USA exec, I approach NBC and ask if they want Burn Notice, Psych, Monk, Dead Zone, etc.
Us the strike to strengthen your sister station's lineup.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:48 am
by TPRJones
TV writing has actually gotten fairly decent in the last few years.
Is there anything we can do to get a film writer's strike going? That's the industry that needs scab writers badly.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:38 pm
by Leisher
The strike has begun.
It will include TV and movie writers.
Your favorite shows should run out of new episodes by January.
Lost, however, already had like 14 of 16 scripts for its season which begins in Feb.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:44 pm
by GORDON
BSG had 12 of the 13 shows written for the first half of season 4.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:51 pm
by TheCatt
Colbert/Daily Show run out immediately.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:58 pm
by TPRJones
Yup, they're taking the week off.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:09 pm
by Malcolm
So, what if someone's an actor/writer for a TV show, like SNL? They keep acting (allegedly), but don't write?
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:42 pm
by TPRJones
I guess it would depend on whether they're in the SAG or the ... writer guild.
Or are they usually in both?
The current contract between the WGA and the AMPTP expired on October 31, 2007, and the two parties are currently in talks on the terms of a possible renewal. Talks broke up the night of the 31st over the new media issue however, and in a meeting on November 1 at the Los Angeles Convention Center attended by 3000 guild members, the strike was authorized by the general membership in support of the negotiating committee. On November 2nd, the WGA signaled the strike would begin at 12:01 AM on November 5th.
In June of 2008, the SAG and DGA contracts with the AMPTP also expire. If all three unions have not come to an agreement with AMPTP, they are expected to support each other in a collective negotiation with the threat of a collective strike that would effectively cripple the Hollywood film industry. If necessary, the other two organizations would strike in July of 2008, just after the SAG and DGA contracts with the AMPTP expire.
Looks like it won't matter in June, they'll be on strike either way.
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:59 pm
by Malcolm
I'm gonna remember this strike the next time I hear a TV writer refer to himself as an "artist." They're fucking artistes. Subtle difference.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:03 pm
by Leisher
I guess it would depend on whether they're in the SAG or the ... writer guild.
Or are they usually in both?
Depends on the person.
One producer talked about how some directors and actors could come up with some things as they weren't members of the guild, but a person like Adam Sandler can't because he is a member, and thus, on strike.
It should be noted that the actors guild is supporting the strike and has already told its members not under contract to not show up for work.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:17 pm
by Malcolm
Leisher wrote:I guess it would depend on whether they're in the SAG or the ... writer guild.
Or are they usually in both?
Depends on the person.
One producer talked about how some directors and actors could come up with some things as they weren't members of the guild, but a person like Adam Sandler can't because he is a member, and thus, on strike.
It should be noted that the actors guild is supporting the strike and has already told its members not under contract to not show up for work.
Are they all high? Do they think they're irreplaceable? Much as I fucking hate Lucas, at least he was bright enough to keep out of the Directors' Guild.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:16 pm
by TPRJones
Malcolm wrote:Do they think they're irreplaceable?
Yes. Most of them are liberals, which means they think they are smarter then everyone else and morally superior. Those sorts of people have a hard time believing anyone could replace them.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:59 pm
by Malcolm
Christ knows there's probably a billion legal issues w\ this, but the solution should be as close to just cutting the whiny, bitching hack writers loose & getting in new blood. I mean hell, if there's ever a time to be a nothing, aspiring Hollywood writer, this is fucking it.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:11 am
by Paul
Adam Carolla talked about the strike today.
He met Leno at a car show yesterday, and Leno said that his show will be shut down, but he has no idea what the plan is. He says that it'd be nice if the late night shows had a united front.
Immediately after that Carolla went to Kimmel, who agrees. But Jimmy has no idea if there's any sort of plan either.
The way he sees it, the late night shows will do whatever Letterman does. During the last writer's strike Letterman and Carson waited awhile, then they started writing their own jokes and recycling/changing old ones to get the shows running again.
Since Letterman is the elder late night show, and since he's unique in that he pays his writers (rather than the studio), they'll probably follow his lead.
It should also be noted that Letterman doesn't like to work, so that might extend things a bit.
Adam seems to think that the shows will be shut down for a few weeks, then the writers will come back because all the other staff/crew (who make a lot less than writers) won't be getting a paycheck either. So the writers will return so that their coworkers can get rent money.
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:17 am
by GORDON
And they'll be blackballed?
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:27 am
by Leisher
Didn't the last writers strike last 22 weeks?
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:54 am
by Paul
GORDON wrote:And they'll be blackballed?
Adam is ranting about hating the unions now. He's pissed that he *must* be in unions.
Yes, the last strike was 22 weeks.
Not blackballed, Gordon. The strike would end, or temporarily end, to help the others out.
As far as Letterman, Leno, and Kimmel starting back up with old or self-written material (like Johnny Carson did during the strike), they can do that without major repercussions. Yeah, they're part of the the guild, but they are also executive producers, which puts them beyond the strike. The strike is for people who's primary job is writing.
Evidently they'll be picketing too.
Writers should wake up in about, what, 5 hours from now? Then we should see some picketing writers on the news.
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