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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:50 am
by Leisher
New Zealand wants to install them.

I like the idea of people who actually need cell phones and pagers for critical jobs turning them into a desk to be monitored.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:58 am
by TheCatt
It certain environments, I believe they are a good idea, but that there would need to be a clear system of having someone else check them, contact you in case it was going off, etc.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:09 pm
by unkbill
If your on call for an emergency what are you doing at a movie anyhow.
To me there it would be a great embarrisment to have it go off in a movie theater. Of course I heard one go off at a funeral once.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:21 pm
by GORDON
unkbill wrote:To me there it would be a great embarrisment to have it go off in a movie theater.
You have self awareness, too many other people dont.

I support cell-phone jammers in theaters 99%. People will just learn that most of the people who paid to see a flick don't give a flying rat's fuck if they are an on-call doctor, or whatever.

(I just made up that 'flying rat's fuck' expression.)

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:29 pm
by unkbill
I say jam the 'flying rats fuck' out of them.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:07 pm
by TheCatt
unkbill wrote:If your on call for an emergency what are you doing at a movie anyhow.
Well, my dad (a cardiologist) is on-call 1 week out of every month. Maybe he should give up showering too, cuz he might get delayed by having to dry up and get dressed. And sleeping, cuz it'd take him too long to respond. In fact, why is he even allowed to leave the hospital when he's on-call?

But, I'd support the blockers as long as there was a guaranteed way to get messages/notification, etc if you needed it. At present, I don't think I could trust someone making $5.15/hr at the movie theatre to be the best steward of those phones.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:44 pm
by 69-1098720866
When my moms on call she just needs to be able to get to the hospital in 15 minutes, going to a movie isn't that big of deal. She just turns the phone on silent or vibrate, if it goes off, quietly gets up and leaves to answer it. Pretty much the same thing I do. If someone is an idiot and doesn't turn off the ringer and then answers the phone, you just politely tell them to shut the fuck up....it has worked for me.

I have no problem with jammers, but like Catt said, I don't think some teen working at the local theater should be in charge of a bunch of cell phones and then in charge of finding the person if one did go off. Kind of seems like a waste of time.




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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:39 pm
by GORDON
TheCatt wrote:
unkbill wrote:If your on call for an emergency what are you doing at a movie anyhow.

Well, my dad (a cardiologist) is on-call 1 week out of every month. Maybe he should give up showering too, cuz he might get delayed by having to dry up and get dressed. And sleeping, cuz it'd take him too long to respond. In fact, why is he even allowed to leave the hospital when he's on-call?

Dad just absolutely, positively can't stay out of a movie theater for a week?

And please explain to me even the tiniest similarity between taking a shower and going to a movie.




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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:41 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote:
TheCatt wrote:
unkbill wrote:If your on call for an emergency what are you doing at a movie anyhow.

Well, my dad (a cardiologist) is on-call 1 week out of every month. Maybe he should give up showering too, cuz he might get delayed by having to dry up and get dressed. And sleeping, cuz it'd take him too long to respond. In fact, why is he even allowed to leave the hospital when he's on-call?

Dad just absolutely, positively can't stay out of a movie theater for a week?

And please explain to me even the tiniest similarity between taking a shower and going to a movie.
If the movie had jammers, his pager/phone would be worthless.

He can't wear them in the shower either.

What if they just banned or fined people whose phone do ring, rather than prohibit the technology?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:07 pm
by unkbill
TheCatt wrote:What if they just banned or fined people whose phone do ring, rather than prohibit the technology?
K I'll support a ban on phones and pagers for everyone that isn't a doctor or medical person.
If your phone rings and your not everyone within reach of you is allowed to slap you silly with no legal repercussions.
Ya like that will fly.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:08 pm
by GORDON
TheCatt wrote:
GORDON wrote:
TheCatt wrote:
Well, my dad (a cardiologist) is on-call 1 week out of every month. Maybe he should give up showering too, cuz he might get delayed by having to dry up and get dressed. And sleeping, cuz it'd take him too long to respond. In fact, why is he even allowed to leave the hospital when he's on-call?

Dad just absolutely, positively can't stay out of a movie theater for a week?

And please explain to me even the tiniest similarity between taking a shower and going to a movie.

If the movie had jammers, his pager/phone would be worthless.

He can't wear them in the shower either.

What if they just banned or fined people whose phone do ring, rather than prohibit the technology?
More than once I've had the cordless phone on the sink by the shower when expecting an important call.

And I'm fine with banning/fining cell phone users as an alternative, but what's the desired goal? To reduce obnoxious distractions of cell phone users, or to ban/fine people?

I don't think anyone's 1st Amendment rights are getting trampled, here. Movie theaters don't want cell phones going off, people leave their phones on anyway because they're stupid or think they're special, so the theaters are forced to take steps to eliminate the problem. People on-call don't have a constitutional right to go to the movies.

I wish I had the capital to open a theater here in this town, and advertise that no-one under 21 is allowed in, all cell phones are jammed, and bouncers are active in every theater to immediately boot talkers (maybe can do without the jamming as long as there are bouncers). I'd serve beer, too. Personally, I'd pay a premium price for a premium "no kid/no phone" movie experience. Peeps who can't afford babysitters and need to be on-call can just vote with their dollars and go elsewhere.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:17 pm
by TheCatt
I'd go to it.

Stadium seating made theaters better, but it didn't help the people that are in them.

On a related issue, iirc, cell-phone jamming equipment is actually illegal within the United States. If your theater had cell-phone jamming equipment, it would imply that such equipment is legal. How, then, would such equipment be regulated to prevent abuse of such? Turning off other people's cell phones without their knowledge or consent would strike me as an infringement upon their personal liberties.

Of course, the other side of me wants a cellphone jammer that plugs into a car adapter just to know that no one around me is on their #^$^ phone instead of focusing on driving.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:19 pm
by TheCatt
Information on jammers

Now if only I knew a PhD Electrical Enginer... hmmm

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:34 pm
by Cakedaddy
Don't take my rights away simply because other people don't know how to handle it. As it's been said. Put it on vibrate, get up and leave quietly. Same with driving with them. Just because other people can't walk and chew gum at the same time, doesn't mean I can't. Quit trying to punish everyone because a couple of people are morons.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:45 pm
by GORDON
But you have no right to tell theater owners how to run their bidnesses. Stop oppressing them.

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:40 pm
by unkbill
Cakedaddy wrote: Quit trying to punish everyone because a couple of people are morons.
I disagree. Change the word couple to allot.

Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 2:57 am
by Cakedaddy
If we're changing words, let's change cell phone to gun. You know, gun bans are born from a couple (alot?) of people messing it up for everyone else.

Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 2:59 am
by Cakedaddy
And I'm not telling theaters how to run their business. And I think it would be less disruptive if I have my cell phone on vibrate, see who's calling and leave to answer than it would be for some guy at a desk to grab a flashlight and come looking for me.

Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 9:06 am
by thibodeaux
Fuck this shit; not only do I want to use my cell phone in the theater, I want wi-fi, too, dammit.

Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 9:10 am
by thibodeaux
TheCatt wrote:Now if only I knew a PhD Electrical Enginer... hmmm
R.F. is hard.

Gotta love that timeline:
1910 - 1920s -

* U.S. Bell System develops first mobile radio telephone. It was the size of a large truck.
* Europe kills millions and millions of people.

1930s -

* U.S. Bell System continues development on the mobile radio telephone.
* Europe kills millions and millions of people.

1940s -

* U.S. Bell System stops development, uses copper to protect Europeans.
* Europe kills millions and millions of people.

1950s -

* U.S. Bell System develops first long-range VHF mobile telephones.
* Europe denies the whole Hitler thing.
Demands the U.S. protect, help, and feed them.

1960s -

* U.S. Bell System growing faster and faster, first radio telephone cellular network appear.
* Europe builds a wall.

1970s -

* U.S. cellular phones become common. AMPS standard is started.
* Europe wastes Marshall Plan money.
Does everything except build a Holocaust museum.

1980s -

* U.S. cellular phones become even more widespread, full country coverage.
* Europe sells weapons to hostile countries and terrorists.
Never repays any WWII debts or Marshall Plan money.

1990s -

* U.S. cellular phone starting to move to a new, superior CDMA format.
* Holy Shit! Europe develops GSM with Marshall Plan money, money they save
by denying the Holocaust, money the save by denying the whole Hitler thing,
money stolen from Jews, and by spying on the U.S.

2000s -

* U.S. has full coverage of a superior CDMA cellular format.
* Europe brags about their "advanced" cellular network technology, which ham radio
operators invented, and where using, 15 years earlier.