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A couple books Al Gore hasn't read, and should have:

Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years

Singer and Avery present in popular language supported by in-depth scientific evidence the compelling concept that global temperatures have been rising mostly or entirely because of a natural cycle. Unstoppable Global Warming explains why we're warming, why it's not very dangerous, and why we can't stop it anyway.


Shattered Consensus: The True State of Global Warming

Shattered Consensus: The True State of Global Warming convincingly demonstrates the remarkable differences between what we commonly read about global warming and what is really happening. Nine chapters describe major problems with computer simulations of future climate that are the basis for wrenching policies being proposed by world leaders. Anyone who reads this book will come away with a new appreciation of the complexity of the climate issue and will question the need for expensive policies that are likely to have little or no detectable effect on the planet's temperature.


My fave part of that book is how there is no computer climate model program in the world... the famous ones that are always making predictions that end up in the headlines.... that can acurately predict the known weather in 1990 from known climate data from 1900-1950.

Not only can these models not predict the future, they can't even predict the past.
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I definitely made the original post too soon.

Because it's approaching mid-April and the temperature has been in the 20's for days and we're getting a constant light dusting of global warming. We actually had a little global warming accumulation last night. If any real precipitation moves in we could conceivably get several inches of global warming.
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My folks in Louisiana said THEY had some global warming, but it didn't stick.
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That phrase, I do not think it means what you think it means.
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We;ve been experiencing light global warming pretty continuously for days, but only a few bit of accumulation on the north side of the house.
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Interesting prelim, lets see where this goes

We've had a pretty long sunspot minimum the past few weeks, so I'm predicting a cool spring/early summer.
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The sun is finally getting a little fiesty, so my prediction may not hold for many more weeks. Depends on how long the coronal holes last.
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Your prediction that led to our week of 90 degree temps?

Yeah, that's not really a cool spring.
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Ok, but it's been pretty dang cold the last couple days, too.
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TheCatt wrote:Your prediction that led to our week of 90 degree temps?

Yeah, that's not really a cool spring.
We've had a very cold spring, here.
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thibodeaux wrote:Ok, but it's been pretty dang cold the last couple days, too.
Sure, it's like this every year, it's called Spring. There's a 60 degree separation between record highs and lows this time of year.

High Temps:
May 1st - 92
May 4th - 58

Just saying, TPR's prediction is like me saying "It will rain this Spring"

After his prediction, we were above normal highs for 2 weeks straight.
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I wasn't refering to the short term in the first place. From what I understand it's a slow process as extended lack of solar activity allows the earth's cloud layer to slowly build up or extended increased solar activity causes the cloud layer to slowly thin out. We're just starting to be hit by the solar wind from the current coronal hole today, so even if it continues unabated we won't see the results from it for a couple of weeks as the effect builds up and clouds are formed less frequently. If this hole passes fairly quickly and we go back to the lack of solar activity we've been seeing, then the cloud layer will continue to build. If this hole is the beginning of a more normal solar cycle than we've been seeing then we'll end up with an average spring/early summer.

For immediate weather prediction, look out the window. The solar thing is more long term, and slow to build.
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I hope to sunny jesus this wasn't a typical spring, here.
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This is typical. Gordon, you're just old now.

Considering all the yard work I've been doing, I'm damn glad it wasn't the 90 degrees you old people like.
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TPRJones wrote:I wasn't refering to the short term in the first place. From what I understand it's a slow process as extended lack of solar activity allows the earth's cloud layer to slowly build up or extended increased solar activity causes the cloud layer to slowly thin out. We're just starting to be hit by the solar wind from the current coronal hole today, so even if it continues unabated we won't see the results from it for a couple of weeks as the effect builds up and clouds are formed less frequently. If this hole passes fairly quickly and we go back to the lack of solar activity we've been seeing, then the cloud layer will continue to build. If this hole is the beginning of a more normal solar cycle than we've been seeing then we'll end up with an average spring/early summer.

For immediate weather prediction, look out the window. The solar thing is more long term, and slow to build.
Just let me know when your version of Spring begins/ends. All I see is Above/Much Above across the West for next two weeks, normal in the East.

But maybe that's still the short term.
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Isn't spring April-June?

My original prediction was aimed at mid-May through mid-July. Then the sun got all fiesty so now I'm not as sure as I was.




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Wikipedia says Spring is March, April, May.

I always thought it was March 20/21 to June 21/22.
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I like yours better, although in my head I've always rounded that off to April-June.

It's hard to remember, what with living in a place with no Spring. We just get the Wet Season and the Holy-Shit-Hot Season (which may or may not be wet).
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So...how exactly do we measure global warming?
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measure? ¿que es "measure"?

What are you doing busy measuring things when we're all going to be dead within five years?!
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