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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:27 pm
by Malcolm
So sayeth Lum.
This is the problem w\ most MMOGs. You hit that upper level cap & then...what? I can see Urban Dead suffering from this problem.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:33 pm
by TheCatt
Yeah, Urban Dead is definitely a limited game. It was design to be limited, sort of a one-off "good idea" that will entertain people for a while.
Then a new one will show up, entertain people for a while...
Then... etc etc
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:39 pm
by thibodeaux
Why the hell don't people understand the difference between "cue" and "queue?" Seems like you'd prefer to type the latter, anyway.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:44 pm
by GORDON
Lum made that mistake?
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:26 pm
by TheCatt
'Cue is tasty. People queue to get 'cue.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:27 pm
by Cakedaddy
That's the first Lum article I've ever read. Well, read most of anyway. And it has confirmed my assumption.
I don't give a shit what Lum has to say. He's an idiot.
I had heard second hand about alot of his theories about things and they were just crazy to me. I remember when him and his wife were trying to convince people that PKing in UO was as bad a rape in real life. How the hell do you equate the two?
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:23 pm
by TPRJones
Huh? You must be mistaken about the PK thing. Lum was a bit of a PK'er himself, IIRC.
While I do disagree with him quite often, Lum's a pretty bright guy on the whole.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:44 pm
by Leisher
I'll admit it.
I REALLY miss the early days of UO.
Best designed MMO ever.
I think playing EVE has really helped me appreciate UO that much more.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:54 pm
by Vince
In fact, I think it’s pretty cool that someone who writes for a newspaper as esteemed as the New York Times shares a common interest with us as World of Warcraft players.
NY Times? Esteemed? There goes someone's credibility...
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:34 pm
by TheCatt
I'll admit it.
I REALLY miss the early days of UO.
Best designed MMO ever.
I think playing EVE has really helped me appreciate UO that much more.
So... what made it so good again?
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:53 pm
by GORDON
That's the first Lum article I've ever read. Well, read most of anyway. And it has confirmed my assumption.
I don't give a shit what Lum has to say. He's an idiot.
I had heard second hand about alot of his theories about things and they were just crazy to me. I remember when him and his wife were trying to convince people that PKing in UO was as bad a rape in real life. How the hell do you equate the two?
That conversation played out on Lum's very famous (within the community) forums, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Lum himself saying it.
In fact, I think I know who first introduced the concept, but I don't like naming names.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:50 pm
by Malcolm
In fact, I think I know who first introduced the concept, but I don't like naming names.
I wanna say I remember w\ 100% accuracy, but I don't. I think that you & I got the same name in mind, though.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:59 pm
by TPRJones
Captain Ebolter?
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:13 pm
by thibodeaux
Dang...I remember this discussion, but I can't remember who started it.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:43 pm
by GORDON
I don't like naming names. 
But it was a chick, IIRC.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:19 pm
by Cakedaddy
I thought it was Lum's wife. When challenged with the fact that people knew women who had been raped and they assure you they aren't the same. Lum's wife's reply was such that she had been raped too, and could say that it WAS the same.
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:21 am
by thibodeaux
It wasn't Myschyf or Mystere or whatever her name was, was it?
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:54 am
by TheCatt
I thought it was Lum's wife. When challenged with the fact that people knew women who had been raped and they assure you they aren't the same. Lum's wife's reply was such that she had been raped too, and could say that it WAS the same.
Uh, did people then call her crazy?
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:07 am
by GORDON
It wasn't Myschyf or Mystere or whatever her name was, was it?
That was my thought.
And there, I didn't name names.
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:38 pm
by Leisher
So... what made it so good again?
It's not a matter of what made it good again, so much as remembering how UO was so much deeper and more accessible than the other games out now.
Look at a lot of the MMO games that have been made since UO and you'll find pretty graphics and not much depth.
UO had everything any current MMO offers, only it did it better AND even had more.
The UO world was one of true freedom. It didn't have the limited freedoms that the other MMOs have. It does now, but in the beginning it didn't and the world was real and immersive because of it.