John Kerry refers to American servicemen as...

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:57 pm

... ignorant and uneducated?

Front page post here.

I'm not gonna watch the video. Let me know if he actually said that.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog....rs&only

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Post by **GORDON** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:06 pm

Geez, I guess it's all over. I just turned on the pc for the first time today, and it's everywhere, kind of. I haven't checked CNN or MSNBC yet. I can only assume they wouldn't ignore a statement of that magnitude, especially in an election year.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/203223.php

“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

Well.................... ok. Studying hard and doing homework makes you smart, not doing so.... makes you a serviceman in Iraq.

I see his opinions haven't changed much since he talked about his brothers 30 years ago raping and pillaging through Vietnam, since, you know, they all did that. Just like how there are no educated, intelligent troops in Iraq right now.

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Post by **GORDON** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:11 pm

Kerry's response:

If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy. This is the classic G.O.P. playbook. I’m sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did."

So he claims that he meant the President, and not the troops?

The President of Iraq.... or what? He mentioned someone being dumb and "stuck in Iraq." Though I guess it could be metaphorical for Bush's "quagmire."

I don't know.

Still a dick, I guess.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:13 pm

Kerry's choices: you can do well, or you can be stuck in Iraq. GW Bush = stuck in Iraq. Therefore, being elected POTUS != doing well. Kerry != POTUS, therefore, Kerry = doing well.

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:16 pm

Something else I'm noticing today:

If you support the war in Iraq but never served, you're a chickenhawk. If you did serve, you're uneducated and ignorant. Either way, 'they' have dehumanized everyone with whom they disagree. I was once told that was a sign of insanity.

And this is currently front page of cnn.com. I'm fairly surprised.

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:51 pm

GORDON wrote:Something else I'm noticing today:

If you support the war in Iraq but never served, you're a chickenhawk. If you did serve, you're uneducated and ignorant. Either way, 'they' have dehumanized everyone with whom they disagree. I was once told that was a sign of insanity.

And this is currently front page of cnn.com. I'm fairly surprised.

OH!...OH!... there's evidence of this in today's very packpeddling statement!

If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy.

I think he is a cocksucking political opportunist who WOULD say something like that and mean it, so therefor he says I have mental health issues.

What a dick.

DoctorChaos · Post by **DoctorChaos** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:27 pm

This from the guy who had a lower GPA than Bush

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:12 pm

http://kerry.senate.gov/v3/contact/email.cfm

Post by **thibodeaux** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:02 pm

Love the pic on the front page. Are those Marines?

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:56 pm

thibodeaux wrote:Love the pic on the front page. Are those Marines?

Yeah. If memory serves, during the presidential campaign he went for a photo op with some Marines on their lunch break. It backfired when the Marines jumped in his shit for being an asshole.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:41 am

I thought you put another dig at Kerry in it: "You wouldn't have needed the army."

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:14 am

Kerry "kind of" apologizes.

Post by **TheCatt** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:26 am

I wish they'd all just STFU.

Post by **GORDON** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:58 am

thibodeaux wrote:I thought you put another dig at Kerry in it: "You wouldn't have needed the army."

I absolutely did. I wondered if anyone would catch that.

Post by **GORDON** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:00 pm

Leisher wrote:Kerry "kind of" apologizes.

God, the man is politically tone deaf.

If he'd have just sheepishly smiled and apologized to begin with and claimed he mispoke and he could see how bad it sounded, even I would have believed him.

As it is, he's a huge dick.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:08 pm

Leisher wrote:Kerry "kind of" apologizes.

Holy Christ. I'm surprised the words could fit what w\ all the egos in the article.

WSGrundy · Post by **WSGrundy** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:14 pm

Saw this on LittleGreenFootballs.

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Post by **GORDON** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:47 pm

Those magnificent bastards.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:49 pm

Much as I normally don't jump on the bandwagon of soundbyte condemnation, that picture is rather fucking funny.

Post by **TheCatt** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:04 pm

So, he apologized. Which wasn't just front page news, but "Breaking news" on cnn.com. Give me a break.

Prepared text:

'Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush.'

Another completely overblown incident in a politically-over-sensitive world?

Apparently.