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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:01 pm
by GORDON
From here.
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:05 pm
by TPRJones
Fox News is predicting it'll go right into the bay up the I-45 coridor (literally right over my current location about 10 miles inland from the bay). If it does this, the worst part of Houston itself to be hit will be the east side I-10 coridor, which is the poor side of town. There will be plenty of blacks and hispanics who probably didn't evacuate for the media to focus on.
I have no doubt that Rita will also "prove" that Bush hates black people.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:35 pm
by Leisher
The next election's results will be interesting.
Do people buy into the Dems blame the Republicans and Bush for everything and fight against every appointment and bill that comes to Congress? Or will people elect another Republican just to show the Dems that they aren't connecting with anyone but the people they pay to vote for them?
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:43 am
by Mommy Dearest
Ever think people may vote Democrat for reasons other than the NOLA disaster? Lots of other issues.
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:33 am
by Leisher
Ever think people may vote Democrat for reasons other than the NOLA disaster? Lots of other issues.
I think you're mixing what I said with what others are saying in this chain. Read my post again, I don't mention Katrina.
I said "the Dems blame the Republicans and Bush for everything and fight against every appointment and bill".
I mean think about it. Bush has been accused of/blamed for:
-the big business scandals that occured during the 90s
-the stock market crash
-the economy completely falling apart in his first year
-9/11
-going into Iraq "alone"
-destroying U.S. relations with the rest of the world
-giving tax breaks ONLY to the rich
-the loss of jobs to overseas markets
-the levees in NO breaking
-Haliburton getting no bid contracts
-oil/gas prices climbing
-nominating the wrong people for EVERY open position
-being racist
-murdering innocent Iraqis/U.S. soldiers
-not protecting the U.S./Mexico border
-increasing the budget
-making the government bigger
-increasing the deficit
-etc, etc, etc
(That list is not a defense of Bush. He's screwed things up, including some things on that list. Just not ALL of them.)
I mean what hasn't Bush been blamed for?
Actually, a better question would be what has Bush done correctly according to Democrats? And while they're answering that, ask them what Clinton did wrong. My problem is that the a good number of those that lean left seem to constantly scream "nothing" to both questions.
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:02 pm
by Malcolm
Odd, I seem to remember the conservatives wanting to kill Clin-ton as much as the lefties wanna kill Bush.
Turnabout's a bitch.
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:13 pm
by GORDON
Odd, I seem to remember the conservatives wanting to kill Clin-ton as much as the lefties wanna kill Bush.
Turnabout's a bitch.
But I think that's the exact fundamental flaw in the thinking...
I don't remember any republicans claiming to want to KILL Clinton, just impeach him and get him out of office.
Yet today, every time you turn around, lefties are claiming to want to kill W.
I can extrapolate a lot from that single tidbit, but people tend to get upset when I do that.
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:33 pm
by Leisher
Odd, I seem to remember the conservatives wanting to kill Clin-ton as much as the lefties wanna kill Bush.
Turnabout's a bitch.
Now don't confuse things.
I challenge you to find proof of what we are seeing today. Go find me websites with Clinton painted as Hitler. Go find me the Republican Underground posts that link Clinton to all the world's evils and threaten revolution. Find me celebrities who said they were moving to other countries if Clinton won. Find me pictures of Clinton with guns added that point to his head. Find me U.S. protestors who were happy that U.S. soldiers died while Clinton was in office. In fact, find me ANY protestors that were mad when the U.S. bombed terrorists or entered Bosnia while Clinton was in office.
Maybe their political rhetoric just doesn't seem as insane because I lean more their way than the other, but I just don't see conservative voters marching up and down the streets demanding an end to democracy.
I know the right does and says a lot of stupid shit, but you have to admit that what we've seen for the last eight years is particularly stupid.
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:36 pm
by TPRJones
Democrats disliked Reagen. They really disliked Bush Sr. Republicans hated Clinton. Democrats want to kill Bush Jr.
It could be a fundamental difference between these two camps that Republicans speak of impeechment and criminal charges, while Democrats talk of murder. However it could also just be escalation over time.
When we have our next Democratic president, let's see if the conservative crowd talks about impeechment and criminal charges, or if they go on all-out "let's kill him" rants with childish tantrums like the liberals have done these past couple of years. Then we'll know.
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:50 pm
by Leisher
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:12 pm
by Mommy Dearest
Where is all this "Let's kill him" stuff comeing from? This is the first I have seen. Then I want to know if these people saying it are Democrats or wackos.
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:25 pm
by TPRJones
Where have you been, MD? GORDON links to these people on a regular basis, and Livejournal is overflowing with them.
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:37 pm
by Malcolm
I always liked that episode.
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:43 pm
by GORDON
Where is all this "Let's kill him" stuff comeing from? This is the first I have seen. Then I want to know if these people saying it are Democrats or wackos.
Good grief. I know I've not been posting AS MUCH political insanity lately, but you've been around for a while.
Democrats, wackos, what's the difference? They all voted for Kerry.
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:03 pm
by Malcolm
Odd, I seem to remember the conservatives wanting to kill Clin-ton as much as the lefties wanna kill Bush.
Turnabout's a bitch.
Now don't confuse things.
I challenge you to find proof of what we are seeing today. Go find me websites with Clinton painted as Hitler. Go find me the Republican Underground posts that link Clinton to all the world's evils and threaten revolution. Find me celebrities who said they were moving to other countries if Clinton won. Find me pictures of Clinton with guns added that point to his head. Find me U.S. protestors who were happy that U.S. soldiers died while Clinton was in office. In fact, find me ANY protestors that were mad when the U.S. bombed terrorists or entered Bosnia while Clinton was in office.
Maybe their political rhetoric just doesn't seem as insane because I lean more their way than the other, but I just don't see conservative voters marching up and down the streets demanding an end to democracy.
I know the right does and says a lot of stupid shit, but you have to admit that what we've seen for the last eight years is particularly stupid.
You're nitpicking my words. Perhaps I should've used "hating" instead of "wanting to kill."
Proof of people that hate Clin-ton as much as, say Cindy Sheehan hates Bush the lesser? Rush Limbaugh, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, & damn near every other conservative pundit in the country.
Am I claiming there's a one-to-one correspondence? No.
Am I claiming that the left & the right vent their disapproval in the same way? No.
Am I claiming that the right hated Clin-ton & his buddies as much as the left hates Bush the lesser & his buddies? Yes.
So someone throws up a website & someone else has a talk radio show. I don't see a helluva lot of difference. Then again, I despise both parties.
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:48 pm
by TPRJones
You're nitpicking my words. Perhaps I should've used "hating" instead of "wanting to kill."
But that's the whole point! Yes, there were plenty of people that hated Clinton, absolutely. I was one of them. But I for one don't recall many if any people proclaiming (and claiming it as serious) that they wanted him to die, or that his ilk should be raped. Nothing like what we are seeing coming from the radical left (although I suspect that phrase is redundant these days).
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:32 pm
by Malcolm
You're nitpicking my words. Perhaps I should've used "hating" instead of "wanting to kill."
But that's the whole point! Yes, there were plenty of people that hated Clinton, absolutely. I was one of them. But I for one don't recall many if any people proclaiming (and claiming it as serious) that they wanted him to die, or that his ilk should be raped. Nothing like what we are seeing coming from the radical left (although I suspect that phrase is redundant these days).
Much in the same way I threaten to kill people if they knock my beer over. I've seen the left spout plenty of crap towards Dubyah, but outside a handful of nutjobs, I don't think there's many folks that would seriously kill him.
& if there are, why they hell haven't they done anything yet?
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:10 pm
by GORDON
What TPR said... that's pretty much the point.
I don't think the 9 year old girl who won the art contest showing how Bush is like Hitler really has a clue what a Nazi is, either, but there it is. It's out there.
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:59 pm
by TPRJones
Here's some google search results:
"kill Bush": 84,800 hits
"kill Clinton": 522 hits
"I hope Bush dies": 916 hits
"I hope Clinton dies": 8 hits
"rape Bush": 2,580 hits
"rape Clinton": 1,360 hits
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:13 am
by Mommy Dearest
Ah the wonders of the internet. A lot like the Bible. You can find anything you are looking for.