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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:00 am
by Leisher Plex
From here.
Edited By GORDON on 1128451941
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:06 am
by Paul
I don't know what the fix is.
If you make it performance based, players will play for themselves rather than for the team. For example, it's near the end of regular season and player X's team has a guaranteed spot in the playoffs. Player X is a touchdown away from getting a $5 million bonus, so he's going to be a whining bitch if he doesn't get the ball often. Plus, when he does get the ball he's going to do everything in his power to score. If the situation requires that he run out of bounds so they can kick a field goal, he isn't going to do it. He needs his own stats to go up, not the teams.
Anybody who renegotiats mid-contract is also going to throw a temper tantrum if he feels he wasn't give the opportunity to make his salary bonuses. So instead of getting someone who cries about being stuck in a contract, you get someone who cries about not getting the ball every-other play so he can't get the upper-end payoffs of his performance based contract. So instead of hating the management, he'll hate the quarterback, coach, and management.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:14 pm
by mbilderback
I was going to write a long post going into many different things, but in the end, I just had sports that pay millions to players. They should live a comfortable life entertaining folks but pay scales and profit margins have gotten out of hand.
F-in moviestars have gone the same way.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:06 pm
by TheCatt
Get rid of contracts. We don't use them where I work.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:46 pm
by Cakedaddy
Nothing will change until the fans stop paying the high ticket prices and giving the games such high weekend ratings. The money is in the sport. It might as well go to the players. Who else should get it? Owners? Managers? Charities?
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:12 pm
by mbilderback
Nothing will change until the fans stop paying the high ticket prices and giving the games such high weekend ratings. The money is in the sport. It might as well go to the players. Who else should get it? Owners? Managers? Charities?
What I'm saying is that there shouldn't be that kind of money in the sport. Lower ticket prices to $5-$10, mebbe $25 for a skybox. Or invest the money in the stadium so people might actually be comfortable...you know, nice reclining chairs with more room, that kind of thing.
I guess there are just too many sport-headed freaks out there spending WAAAAY too much money to watch a bunch of musclebound idiots beat each other senseless. (focusing on football 
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:33 pm
by GORDON
What I'm saying is that there shouldn't be that kind of money in the sport. Lower ticket prices to $5-$10, mebbe $25 for a skybox.
Artificial shortages! 
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:50 pm
by mbilderback
I know, I know, and I'm more of a lasez-faire (sp?) kinda guy when it comes to this stuff. I say to the sports teams, you made your beds, now go lie in it.
Luckily I just don't really care.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:18 pm
by GORDON
But letting the businesses be means they have to be allowed to chrge $90 for the cheap seats.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:31 pm
by TheCatt
All I know is that tickets to my team (Redskins) lower-level are $75/pop for the cheapest. And that the waiting list for my team is prolly 20+ years. The prices don't seem to matter. I've been on that list for 5 years, lord knows if I'll ever make it to the top.
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:33 pm
by GORDON
Sound like they're underpriced, then.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:32 am
by DoctorChaos
After the last baseball strike, I never again went to a major league baseball game. The only exception was when a supplier gave us box seats to an Indians game. I know I'm not the rule. Most folks can't go without their sports. I've resorted to minor league games and college football.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:16 am
by GORDON
Last professional sporting event I attended, I was part of the half time show.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:22 am
by mbilderback
They were having some sort of freak-show at half-time? Wow.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:02 pm
by GORDON
I will say that something... unusually large was involved.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:17 pm
by DoctorChaos
Well we know what it wasn't
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:48 pm
by TheCatt
I will say that something... unusually large was involved.
Your metal tit ring?
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:19 am
by WSGrundy
The T.O.(who is a total fuck by the way) thing doesn't really bother me because the Eagles don't have to honor the contract either. If the Eagles had to pay him what was signed on the contract then I would say the T.O was in the wrong but if they don't have to honor it after a bad season by the player then I don't think Owens should have to honor it after a good season.
Didn't the Patriots cut Troy Brown after he played both offense and defense to help the team out? He didn't get more money for that and risked getting injured and not getting any more cash.