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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:36 pm
by 71-1085092892
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:46 pm
by 71-1085092892
Oh...heh... one of my classes is "American History, post Civil War." I wonder if the prof will offer any spin, liberal or otherwise. I wonder if I'll argue. I wonder if I'll pass.
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:16 am
by Paul
I graduated high school with a 3.14 GPA so I didn't get any academic scholarships. I didn't join the military so there was no GI Bill. I did go to a state university, which was cheap, so I ended up "making money" with the grants I got. In fact, the last grant payed for my wife's engagement ring.
I guess if I you count room and board as college costs I would have lost money. I ddin't live on campus, and those costs are incurred regardless of whether or not I was in college, so I don't count them.
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:34 am
by TPRJones
However, if you DO have rich parents who are completely unwilling to pay for your schooling, then you're pretty much fucked since you have to claim their income (which you cannot use yourself) on every damn piece of paper relating to scholarships, grants, and loans.
And if your parents aren't willing to give you a copy of their income taxes, then you can't apply for ANYTHING at all, 'cause the FAFSA is the first step and it requires that information until you are 25 years of age.
*sigh*
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:40 am
by mbilderback
TPRJones wrote:However, if you DO have rich parents who are completely unwilling to pay for your schooling, then you're pretty much fucked since you have to claim their income (which you cannot use yourself) on every damn piece of paper relating to scholarships, grants, and loans.
And if your parents aren't willing to give you a copy of their income taxes, then you can't apply for ANYTHING at all, 'cause the FAFSA is the first step and it requires that information until you are 25 years of age.
*sigh*
True, true.
But wait, you have rich parents who won't pay for college? I mean, not paying for you to screw around or buying you a car I can understand, but not paying for college?
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:11 am
by unkbill
TPRJones wrote:However, if you DO have rich parents who are completely unwilling to pay for your schooling, then you're pretty much fucked since you have to claim their income
I don't understand the rich parts of everyones statements. My mother worked for the post office and made to much money for me to get help for college. And we were far from rich.
P.S. Does this mean I can call Gordo a college punk know.
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:17 am
by mbilderback
P.S. Does this mean I can call Gordo a college punk know.
Part of the teen angst thing.
Yah, as far as FAFSA is concerned, I can put 19k a year towards my education....uh what the hell? ???
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:40 am
by 71-1085092892
Paul wrote:I graduated high school with a 3.14 GPA so I didn't get any academic scholarships. I didn't join the military so there was no GI Bill. I did go to a state university, which was cheap, so I ended up "making money" with the grants I got. In fact, the last grant payed for my wife's engagement ring.
I guess if I you count room and board as college costs I would have lost money. I ddin't live on campus, and those costs are incurred regardless of whether or not I was in college, so I don't count them.
"I graduated high school with a 3.14 GPA so I didn't get any academic scholarships."
That's a choice you made.
"I didn't join the military so there was no GI Bill."
That's a choice you made.
This is my point.
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:41 am
by 71-1085092892
TPRJones wrote:However, if you DO have rich parents who are completely unwilling to pay for your schooling, then you're pretty much fucked since you have to claim their income (which you cannot use yourself) on every damn piece of paper relating to scholarships, grants, and loans.
I've heard lots of people work their way through college. I believe you can do the work-study program even with rich parents who want to teach you the value of a buck the hard way.
It's rough, but it is still an option.
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:42 am
by 71-1085092892
mbilderback wrote:P.S. Does this mean I can call Gordo a college punk know.
Part of the teen angst thing.
Yah, as far as FAFSA is concerned, I can put 19k a year towards my education....uh what the hell? ???
Yes... yes... deep down, I know I need to hone my teen angst skills.
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:00 pm
by Mentat
I had a great history teacher in college who was an unrepentant conservative. He would often make comments such as "The greatest moment of my life was watching Red Army tanks fire rounds into the Kremlin".
He doesn't seem to be employed there anymore...
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:27 pm
by thibodeaux
I say edumacation is over-rated.
And I believe I am living proof.
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:54 pm
by 71-1085092892
thibodeaux wrote:I say edumacation is over-rated.
And I believe I am living proof.
You and me both.
I never finished school in the first place because I got hired into the tech sector in my 3rd semester, and it took me around the world. After a couple years in the real world I realized how worthless a kid with an MIS degree was... you need the real world experience to have any value in a real IT shop.
Maybe I just never met the right college grad.
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:39 pm
by Paul
GORDON wrote:That's a choice you made.
Yeah, I agree with you.
Heck, I didn't apply for any grants until my girlfriend (who went to an expensive college for free due to an academic scholarship) convinced me to fill stuff out. A few hours of paperwork saved me thousands of dollars.
If I really wanted to go to college and couldn't afford it any other way I would have taken ROTC courses in highschool, then joined the military for a few years. I probably would have joined something with a low casualty rate (like the Air Force), since the Gulf War war had ended a bit earlier and was fresh in my mind.
That probably wouldn't have happened though. California State Universities are cheap. I think it I spent around $1,200 per semester going full-time, including books. (Rates have gone up some) Anyway, working a register and taking-tickets part-time in L.A. paid $8.25 an hour, so saving up I could afford it.
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:08 pm
by TPRJones
GORDON wrote:I believe you can do the work-study program even with rich parents who want to teach you the value of a buck the hard way.
Schools have a limited number of work-study slots, and I was turned down because I'm not black.
I did work fifty hours a week at three part-time jobs, though, but that didn't pay nearly as much as work-study would have.
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:10 pm
by TPRJones
unkbill wrote:TPRJones wrote:However, if you DO have rich parents who are completely unwilling to pay for your schooling, then you're pretty much fucked since you have to claim their income
I don't understand the rich parts of everyones statements. My mother worked for the post office and made to much money for me to get help for college. And we were far from rich.
Well, they were rich according to the FAFSA. They made more than $40K a year in the late 80's, which meant no financial aid options for me.
Is that rich?
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:21 pm
by thibodeaux
$40k in the late '80s was pretty damn phat.
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:13 pm
by unkbill
TPRJones wrote:unkbill wrote:TPRJones wrote:However, if you DO have rich parents who are completely unwilling to pay for your schooling, then you're pretty much fucked since you have to claim their income
I don't understand the rich parts of everyones statements. My mother worked for the post office and made to much money for me to get help for college. And we were far from rich.
Well, they were rich according to the FAFSA. They made more than $40K a year in the late 80's, which meant no financial aid options for me.
Is that rich?
My example was early 80s. And I don't believe my mother brought more than 30 home a year.
No they were not rich by a long shot.
I ended up taking out student loans. I went full time and averaged bs. My teachers said to bring it up or get a shit job when I got out. I scaled back some. Brought up my grades. Then the bank said no more money if I didn't go full time. I was offered a job doing remodeling and here I am.
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:48 pm
by TPRJones
thibodeaux wrote:$40k in the late '80s was pretty damn phat.
I'm assuming "phat" is a bad thing?
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:50 pm
by thibodeaux
Well...I mean, if we're talking rural Louisiana, it was phat.