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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:08 am
by Leisher
Can't give homes away.
They're about to lose a lot of casino business too as Ohio looks to pass "Issue 3" which means casinos for Toledo, Cincinnati, Cleveland, and Columbus. (Apparently, the Toledo one will be 5 minutes from my office.)
Things look pretty bleak in Detroit.
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:01 pm
by TheCatt
17.3% unemployment, highest in the nation.
A friend of mine was visiting family, and had a Friday evening flight out of DTW. Was like "well, I guess we better get going to avoid rush hour traffic" His Father-in-law said "We dont have rush hour any more"
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:29 am
by Leisher
Saw the "Weren't we just" thread and it reminded me about the latest news out of Detroit, and maybe Cake can fill in more details...
Anyway, the mayor plans to shrink the city. He wants to evict people from their homes and tell them to move to other parts of Detroit if their area is sparsely populated. Essentially, he's planning on centralizing the population, and then completely ignoring the abandoned part. This may involve shrinking the actual city limits.
The idea is that it'll save Detroit a lot of money, and help the city begin to recover.
It's like the opposite of the thread I linked. Instead of evicting folks for private business development, they're evicting folks because nobody wants to live there...
I think these folks should be given the option to stay where they are if they don't want to move. If Detroit loses citizens, then so be it. These people are supposed to be "free", let them decide if they need the services you provide or if they can do without them.
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:59 am
by Malcolm
On one hand, yeah, the citizens should probably be allowed to choose. On the other hand, it's Detroit. That place is a hole & anything that results in less Detroit is something I'll consider.
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:13 am
by TheCatt
Hmmm... America 2.0 rises out of the ghetto of Detroit? They remove the people, we get to be our own independent state?
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:25 am
by Malcolm
That's a bit more of a fixer-upper than we were planning for. The "buy a tropical island" idea sounds better.
Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:46 am
by Leisher
Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:09 am
by GORDON
Will the last American to leave please take the flag?
No wait that's Miami.
Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:12 am
by TheCatt
America 2.0? Take over part of Detroit, make it independent...
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:50 pm
by Leisher
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:15 pm
by Leisher
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:27 pm
by Malcolm
You mean people are going to riot, commit crimes, and disturb the halcyon life that is urban Detroit? Wow, wonder if anyone'll notice.
“Maybe we won’t take it to the level of the ’60s riots, but this thing is escalating,” Williams said.
Christ on a crutch. Somewhere, Dr. King is rolling over in his grave trying to figure out how what the fuck you're doing harkens back to the days of his marches.
“Obviously [Orr] is a black proxy for the governor,” Williams said. “Detroit is 84 percent African-American, and this is an obvious opportunity for Snyder to utilize this man as an Uncle Tom, quite frankly.”
Yep, nothing racist about that remark.
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Detroit
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:08 am
by Leisher
Detroit
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:17 am
by TheCatt
"Grosse Pointe is right across the city border line. Right across," said Hall, describing a well-to-do suburb. "iPad, tablet, SMART Boards everywhere. Their floor is glossy. Glossy clean. There's no metal detector, no security guard. And it's right across the border line."
As long as funding is primarily city/county-based, this is the way it will be.
The notion that we have schools in the US where people cannot learn to read is absurd.
Detroit
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:22 am
by GORDON
Cannot learn <> wont. Even if my local schools were not existent, I'd make sure my kid was educated. There's a lot to be said about cycles of poverty, but people need to break it on their own, and decide to make a change. All the tax money in the world doesn't change that.
Detroit
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:55 am
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote: Cannot learn <> wont. Even if my local schools were not existent, I'd make sure my kid was educated. There's a lot to be said about cycles of poverty, but people need to break it on their own, and decide to make a change. All the tax money in the world doesn't change that.
Sure. But are we then just giving up on those without parental support? Or just making it a lot harder for them?
Detroit
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:03 pm
by GORDON
Nah. But the culture needs to change.
Detroit
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:11 pm
by Leisher
GORDON wrote: But the culture needs to change.
Agree 100%.
However, I'm also with Catt that we need to help the kids whose parents are worthless. Thing is, we can't seek them out. They need to find the help on their own. That's the only efficient way.
Detroit
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:16 pm
by TheCatt
Sure, culture needs to change. Maybe they could teach it in schools that are funded?
Detroit
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:46 pm
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: Sure, culture needs to change. Maybe they could teach it in schools that are funded?
Yeah, I don't think culture is going to get changed in schools, funded or not.