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Full body scans now mandatory if flying out of Heathrow.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8490860.stm

Add to this Obama's spending millions on scanners at US airports, and we should no longer expect to have any privacy if you want to fly. Nice trend we have going, here.

I'm calling it now: airports are only the beginning. Ultimately, if this trend continues, you won't be allowed to leave your house without a full body scan.

Edit - headline was misleading. But I am still making the call. We'll all be scanned constantly in the nearish future. I'm guessing within 25 years.




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If we're going to start being scanned all the time, which essentially shows us naked, then I for one will just go ahead and stop wearing clothing in public.

This is fair warning.
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Transport Secretary Lord Adonis said in the immediate future only a small proportion of airline passengers would be selected for scanning.


Lord Adonis? Really? I also like how he says "immediate future." Guess this pretty much means I won't be visiting the U.K. anytime soon.
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The new scanners pretty much show a form like gumby and what he has on him. As for privacy. You are just now thinking we have lost it? Been long gone.
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Yes but until now they couldn't see you naked.

I'm not buying the "you look like gumby" argument. This is the first generation stuff.
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GORDON wrote:Yes but until now they couldn't see you naked.

I'm not buying the "you look like gumby" argument. This is the first generation stuff.
Well it isn't an argument. They can come with a stick figure and only show up things like guns and watches. Been there saw that.
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I know for a fact that dogs & rats are used to sniff out landmines in third-world countries. There's also research into using honeybees (which actually have a higher accuracy far as I've read). Granted they're training them to find a particular chemical, but they're fucking rats. You can breed them en masse. Even the dog solution seems cheaper & more preferable than the million-dollar scanner machine solution.
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That's faked. Someone took the sixth image from the top row of this

( NSFW: http://www.f1online.de/f1onlin....guage=1 )

added a belt buckle, inverted it, and then called it the scanner image. It's not.

Not that I approve of these scanners, just saying it's not quite like that. For one thing, she wouldn't have hair.
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Body scanned images of a celeb passed around at a UK airport.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/exposed....ml?DFSA

“It is very important to stress that the images which are captured by body scanners are immediately deleted after the passenger has gone through the body scanner,” Adonis told the London Evening Standard.

Adonis was forced to address privacy concerns following reports that the images produced by the scanners broke child pornography laws in the UK. When the scanners were first introduced, it was also speculated that images of famous people would be ripe for abuse as the pictures produced by the devices make genitals “eerily visible” according to journalists who have investigated trials of the technology.

However, the Transport Secretary’s assurances were demolished after it was revealed on the BBC’s Jonathan Ross show Friday that Indian actor Shahrukh Khan had passed through a body scan and later had the image of his naked body printed out and circulated by Heathrow security staff.
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I read about his side of that yesterday, and was like, wtf? They keep saying that's not possible.

Seriously, wtf?
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The first time I'm directed towards one of these machines, my response will be (in a loud voice), "Why, do you want to see my COCK? Is that it? Not getting enouch COCK in your life? How about I just whip it out right here for you, if you're so hungry for my COCK?"

Sure, I won't actually reach my destination, but it'll be fun.




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TheCatt wrote:They keep saying that's not possible.

It's because they, being government officials, are completely full of shit.

And hungry for my COCK.
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In the meantime, the revelation that the naked body scanner images are being freely printed out and circulated by airport security staff should prove to be the death knell for plans on behalf of governments worldwide to institute the scanners on a widespread basis.

I doubt it.
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Adonis was forced to address privacy concerns following reports that the images produced by the scanners broke child pornography laws in the UK.

Sickos.

“I was a little scared. Something happens [inside the scans], and I came out. Then I saw these girls – they had these printouts. I looked at them. I thought they were some forms you had to fill. I said ‘give them to me’ – and you could see everything inside. So I autographed them for them,” stated Khan.

In spite of the fact he's being treated like a piece of meat, he handles this with a lot of grace. Good on him.
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Instead of the scanners, they should just create a box that runs a laser over the person inside like you'd see in a Sci-Fi movie.

If they want it to detect certain chemicals or any active electronic devices, I guess that's fine too, but that's not the point.

Start releasing rumors 2 years before rolling out the first device. Say that you've created a new scanner that causes any explosive material to detonate. It doesn't matter if they're solid, liquid, or gas. This scanner detects them and detonates them.

Tell the world work has begun on a prototype that will contain the blast.

A year later, leak security camera footage of an unknown airport screening station where a man goes into the prototype device and an explosion occurs within the device. Hire the best Hollywood has to offer for the special effects here. He doesn't have to be seen exploding, but those folks on camera must react properly. Then show someone with a hose spray out the machine, and within a minute, the next person enters the same machine.

Now roll the device out and instead of spending millions on each device, spend a couple thousand on properly training your security employees to stop nervous people.

Terrorists are ignorant. That's why they're so willing to die for nothing. They'll have no idea if this new technology works or not. Even if they have scientists of their own telling them that this device is BS, the actual terrorist himself is still a fucking idiot and will be nervous.

No invasion of privacy. No huge costs.
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What would we think about those airport scanners in "Total Recall," that show only skeletons and hidden weapons?
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GORDON wrote:What would we think about those airport scanners in "Total Recall," that show only skeletons and hidden weapons?
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