Welcome to Thunderdome

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:53 pm**

"Ask what you can do to help your President."

http://www.foxnews.com/politic....tudents

A suggested lesson plan that calls on school kids to write letters to themselves about what they can do to help President Obama is troubling some education experts, who say it establishes the president as a "superintendent in chief" and may indoctrinate children to support him politically.

Edited By GORDON on 1251925337

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:17 pm**

Students in grades pre-K-6, for example, are encouraged to "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals."

For grades 7-12, the Department of Education suggests teachers prepare by excerpting quotes from Obama's speeches on education for their students to contemplate -- and ask as questions such as "Why does President Obama want to speak with us today? How will he inspire us? How will he challenge us?"

I suppose paying for all the shit he's promising would be challenging.

During the speech, "teachers can ask students to write down key ideas or phrases that are important or personally meaningful."

Activities suggested for after the speech include asking students "what resonated with you from President Obama's speech? What lines/phrase do you remember?"

What the fuck? That reads like a marketing survey.

Edited By Malcolm on 1251926305

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:58 pm**

To repeat myself, can you imagine the crap that would be said if fascist Bush had done this?

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:12 pm**

It's already been thrown down the memory hole. I guess they realized it was too obvious.

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post....DFjMjg=

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:16 pm**

Peeps talking about keeping their kids home that day.

http://hotair.com/archive....-speech

I can see the point... but... he is the President, and I think it sends a wrong message. I'd more likely send my kid to school, and deprogram him later. If he is only exposed to one side of issues he will never learn to recognize bullshit.

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:43 pm**

I'd prep him w\ some annoying questions. I'd love to see some CNN footage of the Secret Service having to escort an 8-year old from the premises.

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:47 pm**

"How can I help the Obama Presidency?"

"I would give him a copy of the Constitution, and an essay about the limited authority of the federal government."

Alternatively:

"I plan on being Obama's eyes and ears, and I have a list of people already who don't like Him to be given to His death troops for reeducation."

Edited By GORDON on 1251938874

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:27 pm**

Leftie video distributed to public schools.

"I pledge to be of service to Barack Obama,"

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13249171?_requestid=5883011

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:16 pm**

One of the creepiest things I've ever seen.

Posted: **Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:54 am**

The Michael Strahan comment in the video was interesting and I agree with it 100%. "I pledge to consider myself an American, and not an African-American." People need to drop that "random ethnicity-American" crap. You either live here or you don't.

Next people will call themselves "LA-New Yorkers" or something equally ridiculous.

Anyway, considering all this propaganda and socialism coming out of Obama's administration, I think a very, very appropriate response would be people giving him the Nazi salute whenever he makes a public appearance.

That'd ruffle some feathers.

Update: I just got to the "Green" horseshit in the video. Cameron Diaz says: "So we can be on this planet forever."

My favorite part is when they talk about ending slavery in the next 5 years. Meanwhile, they're supporting a party that is enslaving the entire country through policies that make them all dependent upon the government. Plus, right after they talk about ending slavery, Demi Moore says, "I pledge to be a servant to our president."

Is this what it was like to live in Germany when Hitler was coming into power?

Edited By Leisher on 1252076460

Posted: **Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:27 pm**

Leisher wrote:Is this what it was like to live in Germany when Hitler was coming into power?

Uh, no.

Posted: **Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:56 pm**

Malcolm wrote:
Leisher wrote:Is this what it was like to live in Germany when Hitler was coming into power?
Uh, no.

Want to explain that "Uh, no."?

I said "coming into power", not when he was leading the country.

This is long before the genocide and war.

I'm not saying Obama = Hitler despite the fact that they have FAR more in common than Bush and Hitler.

I'm just pointing out how both were local politicians who more accidentally found themselves on the national stage than anything else. Both are socialists. Both believed they were doing the right thing. Both had the support of the media. Both had the support of the left. Both had the support of powerful citizens. Both are extremely characteristic leaders. Both pushed policies to ensure support from the masses. Etc.

If you listen to Germans who happened to not be in the Nazi party during WWII, they talk about how the country had lost its fucking mind. Common sense was out the window. Government spending was out of control. Propaganda filled the streets and airwaves.

So again, while I don't think Obama is planning on invading Poland, I do think our country's current political climate is closer to that of Germany pre-WWII than say China's current government.

Posted: **Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:05 pm**

I often see parallels to Stalin with the current administration, especially with this "get them while they're young" school-kid plan.

Posted: **Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:45 pm**

There's no way, no way in hell you can compare post-WWI Germany (which is what really gave Adolf the opportunity to pull off his insane vision) to the times & environment which allowed B. Rock's rather meteoric shot to the White House.

When we start needing dumptrucks full of dollar bills to buy a loaf of bread, or when the other nations of Europe are extorting you in a giant international legalized protection racket, or when we're NOT the #1 superpower in the world ... maybe when that shit happens, we'll start talking.

& Hitler was billions of times more charismatic than B. Rock.

So, no, I don't think this is what it was like being in Germany when Hitler was cutting his teeth. Unless you'd care to make the argument that B. Rock's just replacing "Jew" w\ "Republican." After WWI, Germany was in fucking shambles. We ain't within 1000 miles of a preview of "shambles" 'round here yet.

Posted: **Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:47 pm**

GORDON wrote:I often see parallels to Stalin with the current administration, especially with this "get them while they're young" school-kid plan.

I'd hear an argument for this. Fortunately, the admin's competency for utilizing new media to increase their popularity ranks right up there w\ their expertise in economic matters.

Posted: **Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:39 pm**

There's no way, no way in hell you can compare post-WWI Germany (which is what really gave Adolf the opportunity to pull off his insane vision) to the times & environment which allowed B. Rock's rather meteoric shot to the White House.

Actually, considering the large number of similarities I did list, I'd say my point was reached.

When we start needing dumptrucks full of dollar bills to buy a loaf of bread, or when the other nations of Europe are extorting you in a giant international legalized protection racket, or when we're NOT the #1 superpower in the world ... maybe when that shit happens, we'll start talking.

It's my mistake to not specify what I was talking about. I wasn't trying to compare economic situations, or our status in the world versus Germany's at that time, etc. I was simply comparing the men and their tactics (or those around them, as I'm sure could be argued).

& Hitler was billions of times more charismatic than B. Rock.

I agree with you here 100%, but keep in mind, this isn't just B Rock's show. The MSM is all about pimping him. Combine that with how they made the last 8 years seem like hell on Earth, and you've got a public who sees him as a savior despite his flawed personality.

Example: Demi Moore made a promotional video in which she says "I pledge to be a servant to Barrack Obama." in the same breath that she's blasting slavery! Fucking insanity!

So, no, I don't think this is what it was like being in Germany when Hitler was cutting his teeth. Unless you'd care to make the argument that B. Rock's just replacing "Jew" w\ "Republican." After WWI, Germany was in fucking shambles. We ain't within 1000 miles of a preview of "shambles" 'round here yet.

Honestly, I didn't think Bush was trying to build an empire and I do not think B Rock is going to build concentration camps. I genuinely think both men were/are doing what they felt was/is right. In B Rock's case, I just think he's young, inexperienced, and quite frankly, ignorant of reality.

So no, I don't think B Rock is trying to make Republicans into the Jews of Germany, although don't you think his lists of "enemies", report your neighbor hotlines, and brown shirt ideas are at least unsettling?

Posted: **Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:30 pm**

Actually, considering the large number of similarities I did list, I'd say my point was reached.

There's a shitload of similarities between Earth & Mars. Still a pretty big damned difference.

I genuinely think both men were/are doing what they felt was/is right. In B Rock's case, I just think he's young, inexperienced, and quite frankly, ignorant of reality.

Every misguided leader in history falls into this category as well. Idi Amin thought he was doing good, too. I'm sure Napoleon thought his new order would bring peace & stability to the world (while simultaneously making himself god of it). Hell, Alexander the Great thought this way, too. The "young, inexperienced" part has little to do w\ the "ignorant of reality" part. You can be old, seasoned, & still dumb as a fucking post (when it comes to leading those around you).

...although don't you think his lists of "enemies", report your neighbor hotlines, and brown shirt ideas are at least unsettling?

Not as unsettling as his foreign & economic policies. I've still not noticed a huge change in the social/domestic situation in this country. There aren't roving bands of renegade donkeys jumping pachyderms in dark alleys at 2am.

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:49 pm**

GORDON wrote:To repeat myself, can you imagine the crap that would be said if fascist Bush had done this?

Turns out he did. Well, one of them did. The first Bush pres asked school kids to send him a letter explaining how they can help with issues of the time. I've heard it play over and over at the airport this morning. They may be taking it out of context because they only play the sentence where he asks for the letter.

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:53 pm**

Is there a difference between asking kids how they can help with the issues of the time, and asking kids how they can help President Obama?

"I would help my President Obama by killing my parents if they aren't going to vote for him in 2012" but then the letter 's' is backwards as to be really cute.

Posted: **Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:02 pm**

I think it was probably overblown, but hell, everything is these days.

Welcome to Thunderdome

"Ask not what your country can do for you..."