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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 5:43 pm
by GORDON
This one is making the rounds.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog....er.html
Anyone know if it is legit?
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 7:15 pm
by TheCatt
Dunno. But it's called "bankruptcy"
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:27 pm
by Mommy Dearest
I googled it, it does exist
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 1:10 am
by TPRJones
So is that allowed under the franchise agreement? If so, that was a bad thing to sign.
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 6:48 am
by TheCatt
TPRJones wrote:So is that allowed under the franchise agreement? If so, that was a bad thing to sign.
Lots of things are allowed under bankruptcy. Basically, it's not the franchise agreement that is allowing it. Bankruptcy allows organizations the opportunities to cancel legal contracts (such as franchise agreements) in order to reduce costs. That's what they are doing.
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:17 am
by Troy
So when the agreements with labor unions are/will be dissolved you guys are happy, but you are suprised when similar things happen to similar contracts the auto companies have?
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 12:30 pm
by GORDON
I don't think I understand the nature of an franchised auto seller. I thought he had assets that were his to do with as he pleased even with a parent-company-bankruptcy.
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 2:01 pm
by Cakedaddy
I don't understand the "given to another dealship at no cost". What does that mean?
Sounds like any car he has on his lot is now an abandoned vehicle. Chrysler won't warrenty it?
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 2:09 pm
by GORDON
Even if Chrysler won't, they still have value. I can't see how they could just be "given away" without any recompense to the owner. Assuming the franchisee is the owner. Again, I guess I don't know how auto franchises work.
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 2:56 pm
by TheCatt
Franchises are legal agreements with all sorts of conditions. Basically, what is happening is that Chrysler is saying: Company A, you can no longer be a franchise, we are breaking this legal agreement. Company B, we are now allow you to sell car X that Company A used to sell.
I'm assuming that the basic issues is that since Company A is no longer a franchise, it cannot do things that only franchises are allowed (the warranty work, the cashback rebates, etc) It still has whatever cars, and can sell them. And it can still do normal repair work, it just can't act on behalf or as a part of Chrysler.
I mean, sucks to be him, but maybe in those 35 years he should have done more to protect himself.
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 3:20 pm
by Mommy Dearest
GORDON wrote:I don't think I understand the nature of an franchised auto seller. I thought he had assets that were his to do with as he pleased even with a parent-company-bankruptcy.
He can do whatever he wants with his assets he just can not sell that type of car anymore and the one's in his inventory will not be covered under factory warranty after a certain date
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 12:25 am
by Vince
I have to say that while I understand it, it's kind of bullshit. Not that the franchise can be yanked out from under him, but that he doesn't have any sort of protection dealing with warranties and such. They couldn't do that to a consumer. Seems like there should be some protection for the franchise owner to be covered with current inventory or something. On the automobiles themselves. Obviously the parts would be problematic.