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On December 24 2009, several long range missiles are launched at Israel, from Iran. This is indisputable. The first 10 have conventional payloads, and 4 are intercepted by Israeli-staffed patriot missile systems, but the 11th is nuclear and Jerusalem is now a parking lot.
Iran claims fringe elements of their military fired the missiles without authorization.
What is the world's, and America's, response?
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Prediction
Hippies are petrified if you breathe "Three Mile Island." & that's not even a real meltdown or show of what a nuclear explosion actually is.
Russia & China might get trigger-happy.
Russia & China might get trigger-happy.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
The initial response is from inside Iran. A very bloody battle starts, between the old Jew haters and the young technologically-minded populace. Note that there are more of the latter than the former now; Iranians don't survive to old age often.
The UN starts drafting a nasty letter.
Obama says some stern words, and threatens to possibly consider shaking his finger.
There are very slow-moving riots throughout Florida, but the rioters all go home before dark. The next day there's a special at Lubby's and the riots never properly get going again.
Within a week the current leadership of Iran is dead. Some believe it was the young Iranians. Some think it was Mossad operatives. Either way, after a few more weeks of riots and fighting, Iran turns into a new strongly secular democratic nation.
The UN starts drafting a nasty letter.
Obama says some stern words, and threatens to possibly consider shaking his finger.
There are very slow-moving riots throughout Florida, but the rioters all go home before dark. The next day there's a special at Lubby's and the riots never properly get going again.
Within a week the current leadership of Iran is dead. Some believe it was the young Iranians. Some think it was Mossad operatives. Either way, after a few more weeks of riots and fighting, Iran turns into a new strongly secular democratic nation.
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Take the current leadership out of the picture, and it would happen. The majority of the populace there currently want just that. Unfortunately the minority that disagrees has all the guns (or, more specifically, hires all the mercenaries from out of country to come in and kill anyone that speaks up).
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I think that is called gun control. Or see "Hitler" in your history book.TPRJones wrote:Unfortunately the minority that disagrees has all the guns (or, more specifically, hires all the mercenaries from out of country to come in and kill anyone that speaks up).
In marriage there is always one person right. And the other one is the husband.
As for the rest I wish they would give every man, woman and child(Jew and Muslim) guns, anti tank missles, grenades, mines, pistols, etc. all one person can handle. Last man standing wins. No more middle east conflict. Sorry I think both sides are assholes.
In marriage there is always one person right. And the other one is the husband.
I don't see an internal revolution getting far w\o an outside source pumping arms to them. G's "Iran launching missiles" scenario doesn't do that.TPRJones wrote:Take the current leadership out of the picture, and it would happen.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Obama will scream NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and take off and fly around the Earth so fast that he turns back time to when the missiles are still in flight. Then he'll land in Jersalem and, like Neo, will hold up his hand and say, "No." The missiles will fall harmlessly out of the sky.TheCatt wrote:Well, Obama's an Agent Of <s>God</s>Peace, so I guess he'd just send white doves.
When Obama is ready, he won't need to dodge bullets.
But seriously...........
I just can't see this leader of the free world doing anything about it.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Those two don't want psychos w\ nukes -- particularly psychos inclined to sell nukes to the highest bidder in the worldwide market of political dissidents. There is no deal they could make that's sweet enough to equal some breakaway province NOT getting a trump card.GORDON wrote:Heh, so you did. Do they give a shit about Israel? Wouldn't Iran just pay for their indifference with a massive deal on oil?
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
So what.... they nuke Terhan and other cities, and occupy the oil fields in force?Malcolm wrote:Those two don't want psychos w\ nukes -- particularly psychos inclined to sell nukes to the highest bidder in the worldwide market of political dissidents. There is no deal they could make that's sweet enough to equal some breakaway province NOT getting a trump card.GORDON wrote:Heh, so you did. Do they give a shit about Israel? Wouldn't Iran just pay for their indifference with a massive deal on oil?
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Letting nukes get out of control is bad for biz. The hard-liners in Russia still remember that their shit economy couldn't pay the bills. Controlled chaos (letting violence at appreciable levels) is most profitable.GORDON wrote:So what.... they nuke Terhan and other cities, and occupy the oil fields in force?Malcolm wrote:Those two don't want psychos w\ nukes -- particularly psychos inclined to sell nukes to the highest bidder in the worldwide market of political dissidents. There is no deal they could make that's sweet enough to equal some breakaway province NOT getting a trump card.GORDON wrote:Heh, so you did. Do they give a shit about Israel? Wouldn't Iran just pay for their indifference with a massive deal on oil?
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
But that is neither fast nor decisive... gives time and leaves infrastructure and communications in place for military/religious leaders to cause more mess, like carrying another nuke on a camel over the mountain into your resort city on the Baltic Sea, or something.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
There's no way, NO WAY Putin & his Chinese counterpart just sit & watch as Iran goes haywire. They're not wild about that shit.GORDON wrote:But that is neither fast nor decisive... gives time and leaves infrastructure and communications in place for military/religious leaders to cause more mess, like carrying another nuke on a camel over the mountain into your resort city on the Baltic Sea, or something.
Fact #1 : Russia & China have helped Iran build their nuclear program. It's extremely profitable. Launching nukes takes them from "psychos threatening to use nukes" to "fuckers that used nukes." There's now way in hell they'll be able to do as much biz. Less profit.
Fact #2 : Russia & China generally go the lightest on Iran of all the permanent veto security council members. They obviously want the rest of the world out of this shit. They want to drag out Iran's nuclear program for another fifty years, while they sell them second-rate parts, third-rate fuel, & fourth-rate scientists.
Would either Russia or China go in & occupy that place & try to use it as a foothold in the Middle East? Ballsy as all hell & stupid to boot. But maybe.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
How about closing all Iranian borders from the outside... no one gets in or out... and a country-wide no-fly zone is enforced? Every time a missile is launched, all of the area in a quarter mile radius is fuel-air bombed. Every time a radar is turned on, all of the area in a quarter mile radius is fuel-air bombed.
Six months until they resort to cannibalism in the cities?
Every time video footage of the collapse of the Iranian civilization is leaked, it will be aired alongside nuclear-blast-burned children from Jerusalem.
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Six months until they resort to cannibalism in the cities?
Every time video footage of the collapse of the Iranian civilization is leaked, it will be aired alongside nuclear-blast-burned children from Jerusalem.
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Reduced to reactionary siege warfare? Not the most practical strategy. Enjoy your protracted war.GORDON wrote:How about closing all Iranian borders from the outside... no one gets in or out... and a country-wide no-fly zone is enforced? Every time a missile is launched, all of the area in a quarter mile radius is fuel-air bombed. Every time a radar is turned on, all of the area in a quarter mile radius is fuel-air bombed.
Six months until they resort to cannibalism in the cities?
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."