Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:29 am
FINALLY won a game. Singed, Noc and Veigar. We played against Yi, Nunu and Pantheon. Pantheon was giving me trouble early game with his poking spiky move and his spear throwing. But, I've learned that with champs like that, I run above and hang out with the dragon. They don't know I'm there, but I gain all the XP from my minions killing theirs. I obviously am not getting the gold, but I'm not falling being in levels either. It works really well. I still get a decent farm though too. Especially if they are being smart and letting the minions fight and take last hits. By the time his minions got to our turret, I was able to use spells and stuff to kill them outside of turret range and get a lot of gold. He'd still hit me, but not enough to make it dangerous. Singed and Viegar where holding their own, I think. We traded a few ganks as well. Eventually, Yi ended up top and Panth went bottom. Yi was trying to farm the jungle as I started. I'd pick my fights and try to get him. Won 3, lost 2 fights. Then a couple of team fights later, I had a slight edge after getting some key items. Then he couldn't fight me any more. I could easily take him 1v1. And with him dead, the rest were easy to handle.
That being said, there was one team fight where they aced us. We came down to hit one of them, but they wandered off before we got there and then there was another in site, so we swtiched, then reverse that again. So, anyway, they were presenting gank opportunities and we were trying to grab one. By the time we initiated, we had missed the window and it was a 3v3 that we ended up in about .5 seconds after starting to try to gank Nunu. It was over pretty quickly. Nunu was dead and Singed was running from a fully healed Yi with Noc and Viegar dead. Gordon fell quickly to Yi. It was a 3 to 1 exchange. We took their tank and they took our whole team. I of course pointed out in chat "That's what happens when we focus their tank, and they focus our squishies". You can argue that our squishies were too close to the fight or something. But, the tanks locked and Panth and Yi both used abilities and were on Viegar and I before we had a chance to lock a spell. In the confusion (Nunu was the target), we were dropping spells on Nunu because we didn't even have time to change targets. They killed us FAST.
So, ya. Our tanks lock, their two melee jump the line and focus me, then Veigar. It was all over in about 4 seconds. But, at least we got their tank. Oh, we lost two turrets in that fight as well as their carries pushed without their tank.
But, luckily it was one of those games where as long as we didn't do anything stupid like that again, we were going to win. We had them pinned back in their base, we are farming hard, and then we take their bottom lane. Singed and Veigar go top, I went to carry our minions in from the bottom. Fighting started at top and Yi came down to stop me. I chewed him up pretty quickly and hit him with my spell on his steps to kill him. Veigar died. I killed their nexus turret while the fighting was still going on up top. I'm guessing Singed was almost dead and they weren't paying attention. I was hitting their Nexus when Nunu showed up. I was contemplating suiciding the nexus, but figured it would be better to make another run after healing instead of waiting to respawn if I failed. He charged after me. Between me and the minions, he was dying. He popped a heal while running to his stairs. I caught him and killed him. Finished the nexus.
From this story, it sounds like it was all me baby! But it wasn't. This is just what I saw. Best bit of team work I've seen out of us in a while.
Scooty played Viegar well, but, we couldn't use him to his full potential. At this point, I know when Gordon is playing Singed, he's going to be doing his thing. The same thing he does every game. So, I anticipate and try to compliment it. With Scooty, it was always a surprise stun circle that change the dynamic of the fight. So, I'm starting to click to get away from a fight that I'm going to JUST lose. Then BAM, the enemy is stunned. Oh, shit, double back and try to get the last hit in before he last hits me kind of thing. Having a regular Veigar, I would grow to anticipate the circle rather than be surprised by it buy myself an extra fraction of a second to take advantage of the advantage. Plus, I forget about Veigar's spells. Yay! They're stunned! I'm going to go for that hurt one. Then I see the hint that Viegar's nuke spell is coming to finish him. But, I'm not used to it and don't REALLY notice it. Just as I get to the enemy, BOOM, he's dead. Oh, nice, now I'll hit this other hurt one. Stun is over and they are running. Being able to see who Scooty is hitting and anticipating that champ is going to die, I can focus on the next one and start to fear/stun and do damage on them. So, point is, learning flow and stuff with teammates playing familiar champions is invaluable.
By the way, I'm going to make sure he reads this since I'm kind of preaching to the choir right now.
It was a good game.
That being said, there was one team fight where they aced us. We came down to hit one of them, but they wandered off before we got there and then there was another in site, so we swtiched, then reverse that again. So, anyway, they were presenting gank opportunities and we were trying to grab one. By the time we initiated, we had missed the window and it was a 3v3 that we ended up in about .5 seconds after starting to try to gank Nunu. It was over pretty quickly. Nunu was dead and Singed was running from a fully healed Yi with Noc and Viegar dead. Gordon fell quickly to Yi. It was a 3 to 1 exchange. We took their tank and they took our whole team. I of course pointed out in chat "That's what happens when we focus their tank, and they focus our squishies". You can argue that our squishies were too close to the fight or something. But, the tanks locked and Panth and Yi both used abilities and were on Viegar and I before we had a chance to lock a spell. In the confusion (Nunu was the target), we were dropping spells on Nunu because we didn't even have time to change targets. They killed us FAST.
So, ya. Our tanks lock, their two melee jump the line and focus me, then Veigar. It was all over in about 4 seconds. But, at least we got their tank. Oh, we lost two turrets in that fight as well as their carries pushed without their tank.
But, luckily it was one of those games where as long as we didn't do anything stupid like that again, we were going to win. We had them pinned back in their base, we are farming hard, and then we take their bottom lane. Singed and Veigar go top, I went to carry our minions in from the bottom. Fighting started at top and Yi came down to stop me. I chewed him up pretty quickly and hit him with my spell on his steps to kill him. Veigar died. I killed their nexus turret while the fighting was still going on up top. I'm guessing Singed was almost dead and they weren't paying attention. I was hitting their Nexus when Nunu showed up. I was contemplating suiciding the nexus, but figured it would be better to make another run after healing instead of waiting to respawn if I failed. He charged after me. Between me and the minions, he was dying. He popped a heal while running to his stairs. I caught him and killed him. Finished the nexus.
From this story, it sounds like it was all me baby! But it wasn't. This is just what I saw. Best bit of team work I've seen out of us in a while.
Scooty played Viegar well, but, we couldn't use him to his full potential. At this point, I know when Gordon is playing Singed, he's going to be doing his thing. The same thing he does every game. So, I anticipate and try to compliment it. With Scooty, it was always a surprise stun circle that change the dynamic of the fight. So, I'm starting to click to get away from a fight that I'm going to JUST lose. Then BAM, the enemy is stunned. Oh, shit, double back and try to get the last hit in before he last hits me kind of thing. Having a regular Veigar, I would grow to anticipate the circle rather than be surprised by it buy myself an extra fraction of a second to take advantage of the advantage. Plus, I forget about Veigar's spells. Yay! They're stunned! I'm going to go for that hurt one. Then I see the hint that Viegar's nuke spell is coming to finish him. But, I'm not used to it and don't REALLY notice it. Just as I get to the enemy, BOOM, he's dead. Oh, nice, now I'll hit this other hurt one. Stun is over and they are running. Being able to see who Scooty is hitting and anticipating that champ is going to die, I can focus on the next one and start to fear/stun and do damage on them. So, point is, learning flow and stuff with teammates playing familiar champions is invaluable.
By the way, I'm going to make sure he reads this since I'm kind of preaching to the choir right now.
It was a good game.