Props to him for fighting for his beliefs, but the way he is going about it is the wrong way. He's doing more harm than good.
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:09 pm
by Leisher
This one's a tough watch. Not because it's gross. It's just tough.
I do not share the beliefs of those parents, but I do understand their side. I also understand the son's side. Obviously I, and I believe everyone on this forum, would attend, but none of us are truly in those parents' shoes. Right or wrong, the son is asking them to cast aside everything they believe, and probably everything their family has believed for generations. That's really tough for human beings.
I do think there was room for a compromise, but like social and political discourse in today's U.S., the son jumped right to "all or nothing". (Not that I blame him.)
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:11 pm
by GORDON
Leisher wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:09 pm
Right or wrong, the son is asking them to cast aside everything they believe, and probably everything their family has believed for generations. That's really tough for human beings.
Son is asking them to choose him over their religion. They passed. For me that would be a permanent cutoff.
Leisher wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:09 pm
Right or wrong, the son is asking them to cast aside everything they believe, and probably everything their family has believed for generations. That's really tough for human beings.
Son is asking them to choose him over their religion. They passed. For me that would be a permanent cutoff.
A skewed religion at that. I'm probably with Gordon, for the most. They absolutely can come, religion or not.
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:40 pm
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:09 am
A skewed religion at that.
Is there one that isn't?
GORDON wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:11 pm
Son is asking them to choose him over their religion. They passed. For me that would be a permanent cutoff.
Ditto.
TheCatt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:09 am
They absolutely can come, religion or not.
As I said, we'd all go, but it's super easy for us to sit back and judge them as wrong (which they are) and declare we wouldn't do the same in their position. However, is it realistic for us to say that? I don't believe so. It's the same as all of the virtual signaling woke people who think they wouldn't have owned slaves if they were rich property owners in the early American south.
Also, to be fair to all involved, this was filmed. We all know reality TV is anything but real.
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:21 pm
by GORDON
They wouldn't have been rich property owners in the south without slaves, because they would have been outcompeted by those who were.
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:09 pm
by Leisher
GORDON wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:21 pm
They wouldn't have been rich property owners in the south without slaves, because they would have been outcompeted by those who were.
“Since the beginning of 2023, certain states in the U.S. have passed laws banning drag shows and restricting the transgender community from access to gender affirming care and from participation in sporting events,”
This is far left political nonsense.
Neither the statement nor the travel advisory single out specific states or laws.
Because they can't. This shit doesn't apply to foreign visitors.
P.S. The entire world is banning men from competing in women's sports, not just the U.S.