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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:07 pm
by Leisher
This story doesn't fit the offended area or the gender area, so we need a gay thread.
Marvel introducing a gay Captain America for Gay Pride month.
No issue with gay characters. There should be gay characters because there are gay people and they deserve representation. However, why don't they ever create characters to represent folks, and instead, always seem to simply use existing characters/names. Stealing headlines is the obvious reason why they do that, but combine that with the image in that article, and doesn't this feel like exploitation instead of representation?
I mean, they could have went Robin Williams with the character, and instead went Nathan Lane?
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 2:02 pm
by Leisher
Kellogg introduces cereal celebrating the alphabet people.
Uh, what's the goal here? What is Kellogg's hoping to achieve? Do they really believe their box of cereal is going to change minds?
"Man I hated them queers, but this cereal is so fucking good!"
Isn't this really just exploitative and divisive? I don't remember eating any cereal out of a box that said, "Hey, thanks for keeping the human race in existence with your heterosexuality."
Isn't Kellogg's just trying to make a buck off of gay pride?
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 2:22 pm
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:02 pm
What is Kellogg's hoping to achieve?
I assume a message of love + inclusion for underrepresented people.
Leisher wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:02 pm
Do they really believe their box of cereal is going to change minds?
"Man I hated them queers, but this cereal is so fucking good!"
I don't think that's the goal.
Leisher wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:02 pm
Isn't Kellogg's just trying to make a buck off of gay pride?
Representation and acceptance matter.
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 2:51 pm
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:22 pm
I assume a message of love + inclusion for underrepresented people.
Based on coverage, I don't think it was a message that was received. Also, I would strongly argue alphabet people are not only not underrepresented, but are probably overrepresented right now.
That's not to say they don't still face hate and ignorance, just that society is well into its usual overcorrection.
TheCatt wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:22 pm
I don't think that's the goal.
Call me cynical, but I see very few examples in corporate America of actual concern or caring about our society and the people in it. Why a limited edition run? Why not a national advertising campaign to explain the limited edition and the message? How about giving full or part of the proceeds to some alphabet charity?
TheCatt wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:22 pm
Representation and acceptance matter.
Yep. Nobody here is arguing it doesn't.
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 2:56 pm
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:51 pm
Based on coverage, I don't think it was a message that was received.
Maybe stop reading places that source from breitbart.
According to reporting by Breitbart and the picture of the box the cereal Kellogg’s is using some of their most famous iconic cartoon characters including “Tony the Tiger, Toucan Sam, and Snap, Crackle, and Pop”. You can even see a Frosted Mini Wheat holding a rainbow flag with a triangle on it.
Leisher wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:51 pm
Call me cynical, but I see very few examples in corporate America of actual concern or caring about our society and the people in it. Why a limited edition run? Why not a national advertising campaign to explain the limited edition and the message? How about giving full or part of the proceeds to some alphabet charity?
To be fair, it's easier to run a company when your focus is just the bottom line, which shareholders typically want.
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:03 pm
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:56 pm
Maybe stop reading places that source from breitbart.
Ha! As if breitbart is less credible than CNN or FOX...
I saw a picture of the box on FB, searched for a news story, and that was one of the only sites that popped up.
TheCatt wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:56 pm
To be fair, it's easier to run a company when your focus is just the bottom line, which shareholders typically want.
Fuck shareholders.
Ok, not really, but yeah, kinda. The absolute focus upon the bottom line and nothing else hasn't been great for the world.
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:11 pm
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:03 pm
Ok, not really, but yeah, kinda. The absolute focus upon the bottom line and nothing else hasn't been great for the world.
But it has
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:14 pm
by Leisher
If C suite greed via the exploitation of sweatshop workers, natural resources, the erosion of the middle class, the disenfranchisement of so many that this country is teetering on socialism, and so on end up being just a blip, I'll agree.
The recent developments in Big Oil suggest you are not all wrong, but plastic now being more prevalent in oceans than fish prove I'm not all wrong too.
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:23 pm
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:14 pm
If C suite greed via the exploitation of sweatshop workers, natural resources, the erosion of the middle class, the disenfranchisement of so many that this country is teetering on socialism, and so on end up being just a blip, I'll agree.
Hundreds of years of capitalism has mostly been good.
One could argue that whatever changed, happened
in the 1970s (Bretton Woods, GATT, etc?)
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:32 pm
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:23 pm
Hundreds of years of capitalism has mostly been good.
Depends on your point of view. I do not wish to discount the awesome things corporations have done for society, but not everyone has fared well all the time.
TheCatt wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:23 pm
One could argue that whatever changed, happened in the 1970s (Bretton Woods, GATT, etc?)
That is fascinating.
What would life be like if those lines stayed together?
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:39 pm
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:32 pm
What would life be like if those lines stayed together?
Imagine workers getting a 50% pay raise, and the stock market being worth less, and fewer financial billionaires + millionaires.
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:20 pm
by TheCatt
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:15 pm
by Leisher
Crazy accurate.
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:41 pm
by Leisher
Corporate involvement in your causes only goes so far...
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:24 pm
by TheCatt
To be fair, it's not pride month there.
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:41 pm
by TheCatt
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:47 pm
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:24 pm
To be fair, it's not pride month there.
I laughed.
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:41 am
by Leisher
Mexico-Costa Rica soccer game halted briefly due to fans chanting anti-gay shit.
Why during a soccer game?
So Mexicans are pretty anti-gay? Who knew? If only they were white, then the MSM would cover it endlessly and declare it the greatest threat to humanity...
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:10 am
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:41 am
Why during a soccer game?
Right? wtf?
Leisher wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:41 am
So Mexicans are pretty anti-gay?
SURPRISE
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:37 am
by GORDON
There may not be a so-called gay agenda, but those people sure seem to be tired of it.
