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Epic Store
Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 1:08 pm
by Leisher
I wonder if their numbers are dropping? They've gone from indy titles to AAA titles.
Also, the exclusivity deal announcements have completed dried up.
I do Fortnite's overall numbers are dropping.
Epic Store
Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 1:39 pm
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: I wonder if their numbers are dropping? They've gone from indy titles to AAA titles.
Also, the exclusivity deal announcements have completed dried up.
I do Fortnite's overall numbers are dropping.
Dunno. But, I'll take free games. Wonder if this makes people question ever buying games.
Epic Store
Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 2:27 pm
by Leisher
It'd be a fun narrative to start spreading on Twitter: "Why would I ever buy a game again? I get free ones every week on Epic!"
Then watch the devs start to melt down as they beg people not to go that route.
Epic Store
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:27 am
by TheCatt
Handsome Collection.
Epic Store
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:25 pm
by TheCatt
Epic Store
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:55 am
by Leisher
I can't wait to never play them.
Epic Store
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:11 pm
by TheCatt
Epic Store
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:45 pm
by Cakedaddy
Leisher - Do you not use this because of their business tactics (exclusive bullshit), their spying (they look at everything on your PC via the client), or because of the Chinese government being involved?
What are your thoughts on Discord or Tencent's involvement with many other PC game companies, etc? Didn't bring up Riot because you don't play it anyway, but would Tencent owning it bother you?
Epic Store
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:43 am
by Leisher
Cakedaddy wrote: Leisher - Do you not use this because of their business tactics (exclusive bullshit), their spying (they look at everything on your PC via the client), or because of the Chinese government being involved?
It's mainly because of the business tactics and Tim Sweeney's unethical, two sided behavior. Exclusivity was the greatest evil in the history of gaming, according to him, until it benefitted him. Now they not only do exclusivity deals with major publishers, but demand it of indy publishers who want to put their games on the EGS. Fuck him.
The Chinese ownership is shitty, but impossible to avoid. Granted, their ownership stakes vary by company, but until world governments start getting serious about cracking down on all the unethical shit they do...
Epic Store
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:44 am
by Leisher
Plus, the EGS is a pile of shit. A company with that many resources should have a much, much better client well over a year into its existence.
Epic Store
Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 9:15 pm
by Leisher
Epic's finances as presented in court.
A good summary of the two sides:
The trial will determine whether or not it's legal for Apple to lock down app distribution and payment processing on iPhones and iPads. Epic says that because the only two really popular mobile operating systems are iOS and Android, software developers are forced to use them, which means being forced to obey Apple's "oppressive" rules and hand over 30% of their iOS revenue. What Epic wants is for iOS to work more like Windows, where software sales and payment processing can be handled independently, without permission from or payment to the platform owner.
In brief, Apple's response is that the iPhone, iOS, App Store, and in-app payment system are part of one package: A device which competes with other devices, such as Android phones, Xboxes, PCs, and so on. The App Store and its rules create convenience and security for consumers, says Apple, and has helped companies like Epic make a lot of money. Apple points out that Epic has brought in over $700 million on iOS over the past few years.
BL3 exclusivity cost Epic $115M. It also showed that 53% of the people who bought it have zero integrity or concern for their own consumer power.
Epic is a one trick pony and the EGS has been running at a loss since day 1.
Even the Unreal engine licensing fees made double what their second most popular game brought in. Damn...
Fortnite kids crashed the conference call for the Epic v Apple case.
Epic Store
Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 7:41 am
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 9:15 pm
Epic's finances as presented in court.
I did not know Doctor Strange was an accountant.
Epic Store
Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 9:46 am
by Leisher
I goofed two of those links. Should be good now.
Epic Store
Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 6:01 pm
by Leisher
Epic spent $11M in their first 9 months on to giveaway free games.
Apparently, most people are like me and login to get them, but then never play them.
Is this a win for Epic? The store is losing money and they're shilling out more to giveaway games. Sure, it boosts your number of users and people logging in, but it's a bullshit number because they aren't sticking around.
It it a win for the developers? Sure, they're selling copies, but nobody is playing their games. Not sure artists want to create art that is never experienced.
Epic Store
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:41 am
by TheCatt
$11M is less than I would have guessed.
But yeah, I've never played one I've gotten.
Epic Store
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:18 am
by Leisher
I honestly do wonder if the revelation that people aren't playing the games is going to sour developers on EGS' tactics. Publishers won't give a shit, but the guys and gals slaving away and putting their everything into a project want people to play it. Giving it away for free would seem to give their art an audience, but in fact, it's actually taking it out of the audience's view. People tuck it away in their library where it's never to be seen again. Meanwhile, if they go shopping on the store and maybe have interest, they'll see the "Owned" icon, move on, and forget it again.
These numbers have to be a kick in the jewels for developers.
Epic Store
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:52 pm
by Leisher
The next Saints Row will be a 1 year exclusive.
The reaction on Twitter has been: "Who cares?", so I genuinely think this was a smart move by the publisher.
Interesting timing considering their suit against Apple.
Also, just a reminder that Tim Sweeney once said of Microsoft's exclusive deals, that they had no place in the business and would kill competition.
Epic Store
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:20 pm
by TheCatt
Free game every day til NYE
Epic Store
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:11 pm
by GORDON
Bah, who gives a fuck. It's the epic store. Waste of time to log in.
Epic Store
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:24 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:11 pm
Bah, who gives a fuck. It's the epic store. Waste of time to log in.
FUCK YOU BUDDY