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JJ Abrams returning to write and direct.

People have already made the "so it'll be a remake of Return of the Jedi?" joke, so come up with something new.

Ep IX: A New Cloverfield. Fuck this movie already.

I have lost all interest in finishing out the series. I suspect even the prequels will get more eyes in rebroadcast 10 years from now than these will.

Vince wrote: I have lost all interest in finishing out the series.

It will never "finish". They have plans for more movies after this new trilogy.

Leisher wrote:

Vince wrote: I have lost all interest in finishing out the series.

It will never "finish". They have plans for more movies after this new trilogy.

By series I mean this leg of trilogies.

Vince wrote: I have lost all interest in finishing out the series. I suspect even the prequels will get more eyes in rebroadcast 10 years from now than these will.

I'd rather watch Episode VII 100x, than watch any part of 1-3

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Don't ever envision myself ever rewatching VII. I don't think it was a horrible movie. It's one of those movies where when I first saw it I was like, "That was alright", but as time goes on I like it less. To me, all episodes I-VI has some great parts and some really cringworthy parts. VII didn't have either. It just seemed mediocre all the way through. Even killing off a main character from the series was very blah. I felt a greater loss when they killed Wolverine in Logan than I did for Han. Hell, I felt more loss for most of the good guys in Rogue One.

Kylo Ren seemed twice as emo as Anakin, which doesn't make for an intimidating antagonist.

Vince wrote: Even killing off a main character from the series was very blah. I felt a greater loss when they killed Wolverine in Logan than I did for Han. Hell, I felt more loss for most of the good guys in Rogue One.

I couldn't disagree more. It sucked watching Han die. Wolverine dying was fucking stupid because of the piss poor writing. And Rogue One was a good film, but I never got emotionally invested in any of the characters. Maybe because I knew ahead of time they were all going to die?

Vince wrote: Kylo Ren seemed twice as emo as Anakin, which doesn't make for an intimidating antagonist.

He was emo, but it was written and acted far, far, far better than Anakin's bullshit. It also wasn't surrounded with a bunch of terrible garbage.

Also, are you sure Kylo is the antagonist?

Leisher wrote: I couldn't disagree more. It sucked watching Han die. Wolverine dying was fucking stupid because of the piss poor writing. And Rogue One was a good film, but I never got emotionally invested in any of the characters. Maybe because I knew ahead of time they were all going to die?

Really? You didn't think Han saying pretty much, "I know there is still good inside him" and getting skewered wasn't a really stupid way to die? Not only that, the whole thing was an unsuccessful retread of Luke vs Vader. Lazy lazy lazy.

And no, I'm not sure Kylo's the antagonist. He was fought to a standstill by someone that has had zero force training but somehow is about as powerful as Luke ever was. So if he is in fact the antagonist, he's a pretty sucky one.

Leisher wrote: He was emo, but it was written and acted far, far, far better than Anakin's bullshit. It also wasn't surrounded with a bunch of terrible garbage.

Absolutely was acted better. I already stated that Abrams gets much better performances from his actors as a director. But what is Kylo's reason for being so emo? I understood why Anakin was so full of anger and hate. Plus we got to see his resentment stoked along by Palpatine. So I would say plot wise, Anakin's being emo was much better written (plot wise).

Well, we've gotten almost zero backstory for him, yet. I'm willing to see if the movies answer why he's so emo.

Vince wrote: Really? You didn't think Han saying pretty much, "I know there is still good inside him" and getting skewered wasn't a really stupid way to die? Not only that, the whole thing was an unsuccessful retread of Luke vs Vader. Lazy lazy lazy.

JJ Abrahms just making updated versions of old stories aside, I thought Han's death was fine. It was the death of a parent. Who else but your own kid could betray you in such a way?

Vince wrote: And no, I'm not sure Kylo's the antagonist. He was fought to a standstill by someone that has had zero force training but somehow is about as powerful as Luke ever was. So if he is in fact the antagonist, he's a pretty sucky one.

It's why he'd make a great protagonist. It has been speculated that the big twist will be Kylo turning to the light and Rey turning to the dark side.

As for his emo ways, like Gordon, I'm waiting to wait and see. Why did he kill all the other Jedi trainees? Why was he terrified of Rey? Etc.

GORDON wrote: Well, we've gotten almost zero backstory for him, yet. I'm willing to see if the movies answer why he's so emo.

Let me know. Given Abram's track record and my lack of enthusiasm after his last one, I'll wait to hear if these go somewhere.

The Porgs are just comic relief and not crucial to the story.

IMax display might have a spoiler. It's all speculation, so it's only a spoiler if the speculation is correct.

Reports coming out that previous director was fired because he disagreed with Rian Johnson's plans.

Hamill is out here hoping Luke is still alive.

I hope someone at Disney has a clue and realizes the fan backlash against VIII isn't going away. If IX doesn't fix the mess that Rian Johnson created, then Star Wars is going to continue to be a failing investment for them.

I mean their next trilogy is being made by Rian Johnson. Are they really so stupid as to think people are going to flock to go see a new trilogy made by the guy who killed Star Wars?

Rian Johnson scrapped a JJ Abrams script for Ep VIII.

Rian Johnson is officially the greatest villain the SW universe has ever known.

It really boggles my mind that the same company that isultimately behind the Marvel movies has allowed Rian Johnson to kill their most expensive franchise for two different eras of fans and their kids.

Kevin Feige had a plan and continues to evolve it.

Kathryn Kennedy appears to be doing this all by the seat of her pants.

Leisher wrote: Rian Johnson scrapped a JJ Abrams script for Ep VIII.

This is news to me. I had heard that there was no plan for the trilogy from Abrams on Awakens and his lack of a unified vision didn't even extend out of the movie he was filming at the time with major plot rewrites as they went.

It was news to me as well.

You know what isn't news? Rian Johnson sucks balls.