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Leisher wrote: Remember when they helped China spy on their people until the rest of the world found out.

Fuck Google.

Leisher wrote: Google employee starts a firestorm.

What is new is that this employee felt safe enough to write and share an 8 page sexist screed, internally

An annual diversity report the company made public in June showed that about 69% of its total workforce is male, and 56% of all employees are white.

TheCatt wrote: And... the guy who wrote the memo has been fired.

Pichai, in his note to employees, said Damore had crossed a line, though he supports employees rights to vocalize dissent. [Probably so that they are easier to find and fire to maintain the echo chamber]

The document is not misogynist or racist, and most of the discussion in it is actually about the fact that Google's left-leaning political landscape can be bad for business.

One of the key things it brings up is that the writer feels there's a lack of moral diversity (i.e. left-leaning vs right-leaning) and that this situation can lead to bad business practices, citing direct examples.

When the author discusses the differences in gender, most of his discussion is actually centered around the facts which lead women (on average) to seek jobs with good work/life balance and less stress and why men seek jobs with good compensation. Nowhere does he suggest that one or the other is superior.

He then states several non-discriminatory practices (some of which he notes are already in practice) which would help equalize the gender-gap at Google without resorting to blatantly racist or sexist discriminatory practices.

He then states that Google is currently engaged in some practices designed to equalize the gender-gap at Google which ARE blatantly racist or sexist, such as internal training programs aimed exclusively at certain races or women as well as hiring practices which base an employee's suitability for participation partially on just their race or gender.

He notes that overwhelmingly left-leaning culture at Google has created an environment where there's an overwhelming confirmation bias against right-leaning individuals, which leads to a culture where they are actively shamed at company TGIFs and effectively silences them.

He concludes with a few pages of suggestions which would alleviate the items he thinks are issues, including such "evil" suggestions as not limiting classes and training programs to specific race/gender, focus on intention and not feelings when dealing with microaggressions, focusing on psychological safety and not just external diversity, and examining current training documents for existing political bias.

GORDON wrote: Beem reading about it, and it seems like nothing he said was factually inorrect, and took a "dont hire just because they are women, hire because they are better" viewpoint, but it's being squashed for political correctness.

Vince wrote: Google is a moral shit hole.

We had hoped to have a frank, open discussion today as we always do to bring us together and move forward.