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Twitter seems to have the same cult support and fanbase as Apple.

I don't regret never getting into twitter. I resent other people deciding what is and isn't good for me to consume. I'm an adult and don't need my hand held.

TheCatt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:09 pm

Leisher wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:40 pm What is "freedom of speech" about tweeting that you're going to murder her?

I think it's obvious. Freedom. Of. Speech.

Supposedly something that Elon + that woman support.

Leisher wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:40 pm Also, as you have pointed out, it's a private company with their own rules and free speech doesn't apply. Threats are clearly against their TOS and they ban others for it, so...

Going to play games, then the rules have to apply to everyone equally.

Or you don't agree in this case because you politically don't agree with Elon and/or the lady? (Which is what I'm thinking here.)

Also, it is illegal to threaten someone.

So, no free speech for you!

Leisher wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:18 pm Going to play games, then the rules have to apply to everyone equally.

I'm not complaining about the rules, but rather those people's supposed love of freedom of speech.

The people at twitter suppressing it wholesale?

TheCatt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:24 pm

Leisher wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:18 pm Going to play games, then the rules have to apply to everyone equally.

I'm not complaining about the rules, but rather those people's supposed love of freedom of speech.

Apparently I missed it when either of them said that illegal speech, particularly threats of violence should be allowed?

I bet they won't sue. They'll be forced to reveal the huge percentage of their accounts that are bots.

GORDON wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:12 pm I bet they won't sue. They'll be forced to reveal the huge percentage of their accounts that are bots.

They have to sue on behalf of the shareholders.

I heard there's a billion dollar payment for him pulling out, so maybe a lawsuit is off the table?

Leisher wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:19 am I heard there's a billion dollar payment for him pulling out, so maybe a lawsuit is off the table?

He's saying that he does not have to pay the $1 billion, ergo -> lawsuit.

Ah, yeah that would be a lawsuit.

Although, Gordon may be right about what the lawsuit will expose. I'm guessing their numbers are way off. It's popularity has been on a steady decline since 2012, they claim to make billions off advertising but I never see or interact with them, the bots are probably far more than the <5% they claim, the public reputation of Twitter is that its a toxic cesspool, etc.

TheCatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:28 pm

GORDON wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:12 pm I bet they won't sue. They'll be forced to reveal the huge percentage of their accounts that are bots.

They have to sue on behalf of the shareholders.

.... And shares will go down when tons of accounts are found to be bots?

GORDON wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:08 pm .... And shares will go down when tons of accounts are found to be bots?

Twitter's argument has always been that spam/bots are "demonetized" and 5% or less of monetized accounts are bots/spam.

So we'll see.

My bet is >10% of all messages are bots.

GORDON wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:32 pm My bet is >10% of all messages are bots.

Bots, or "monetized" accounts?

Hmmm.

Even if most of the "monetized" accounts are not bots, the audience bots matter too. Advertisers pay for numbers and if 30% of their "audience" are bots, they will not want to be paying as much.

I still don't get how they make money. I've never clicked on a promoted Tweet. I cannot name the last product or company I have seen advertised on Twitter.

Leisher wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:32 pm Even if most of the "monetized" accounts are not bots, the audience bots matter too. Advertisers pay for numbers and if 30% of their "audience" are bots, they will not want to be paying as much.

demonetization applies to bots that "see" ads, so they dont count.

Fair enough.

But I thought it mattered when certain celebrities lost hundreds of thousands of followers during purges?