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Americans have finally woken up to the scam of college.

The first line in the article:

Americans have grown sour on one of the longtime key ingredients of the American dream.

It has never been a key ingredient of the American dream. Hard work, freedom, and opportunity are the key ingredients, not going into lifelong debt to gain no real marketable skills thanks to a lie.

College was always necessary for certain jobs, like doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. and I'm definitely not saying continuing education is a bad thing. However, pushing it as necessary for all jobs is modern propaganda that certain people got rich pushing. This was made worse by HR people becoming a thing in corporations and furthering the "all jobs need degrees" lie. This was despite years of studies and surveys showing college students were arriving in the workplace completely unprepared and without skills, still needing tons of training, etc. Oh, and let's not forget all the high paying jobs they weren't finding.

There are 439K open trade jobs in the U.S., and I believe that's just around data centers. These people go to school for months, get certified, and are on the job making 6 figures within a year or two. BTW, debt free. When they go to lunch, they're being served by college graduates, buried in debt, who cannot find a job in whatever specialty their degree claims.

College worked out pretty well for me.

But yeah I agree. The price is just way too much for what it is.

As it turns out, SCOTUS' recent ruling exposed that admissions were pretty damn racist.

Leisher wrote: ↑Fri Dec 19, 2025 3:05 pm As it turns out, SCOTUS' recent ruling exposed that admissions were pretty damn racist.

Yeah, but do Asians even count?

TheCatt wrote: ↑Fri Dec 19, 2025 3:47 pm

Leisher wrote: ↑Fri Dec 19, 2025 3:05 pm As it turns out, SCOTUS' recent ruling exposed that admissions were pretty damn racist.

Yeah, but do Asians even count?

My future Japanese girlfriend says yes.

"You MUST go to college." is really working out well.

"college degree" vs "college degree from shitty school" needs some separation. Like online universities, etc vs a top 50 or top 200 college.

I don't disagree with that, but I would also include "college degree that has actual value" vs "college degree in gender roles in South Africa during the 1400s".

The vast, vast, overwhelming majority of jobs do NOT need a college degree. The lie that everyone must have one was created by assholes pretending that having one made them "better" (particularly HR people), parents thinking it was some magic cure for their kids being unmotivated morons, and greedy bankers/college administrators.

Phoenix Online, ITT Tech, and their ilk wouldn't exist if that lie was never told.

College is great, and I support higher education. The lie that everyone needs to go has financially crippled generations.

BTW, Central Michigan has begun advertising a guarantee that you'll be employed in your field after graduation. I wonder how many more colleges are going to follow suit? (Or if they're already following someone else doing the same?)

Leisher wrote: ↑Thu Jan 22, 2026 11:25 am I don't disagree with that, but I would also include "college degree that has actual value" vs "college degree in gender roles in South Africa during the 1400s".

Fair

They're also the first generation to have a lower IQ than the previous one.

As a species, we're really doing great things...

Fail them.

TheCatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 4:14 pmFail them.

You'd think that's obvious, right?

However, it's bad for business. Colleges already have a shittier than expected graduation rate, and I have seen several reports/studies that many are rubber stamping degrees. Not as bad as Phoenix University did back in the day, but professors are strongly encouraged to pass students.

Colleges have to be for profit or about higher education. It can't be both apparently.

Interesting list. Journalism is indeed dead.