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Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:46 am**

Malcolm wrote:Turns out the FBI might be full of second-rate shit programmers. Wow, who'd imagine the gov't falling behind the private sector?
An outside party came forward Sunday and showed investigators a way to circumvent the iPhone security features that had previously flummoxed the FBI’s computer experts, federal authorities said Monday.
I hope it involved "password1."

I think the story here is:

FBI: Give us access.
Apple: No.
FBI: Oh look, we're going to publicize that your shit isn't secure anyway.

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:21 pm**

Eh, I think the real story is that the FBI has been exposed as the technologically inept fuckwits they are.

By at least 2011, Cellebrite’s Universal Forensic Extraction Devices (UFED) could reportedly extract and decrypt even deleted data from 95% of cellphones; that’s the same year Michigan State Police were discovered to be using the devices which could snarf the data from phones in one-and-a-half minutes. This lickety-split method prompted concerns that police might suck the data from a phone during something as “innocent” as a traffic violation stop.

I assume that James "Fuck Your Privacy" Comey conveniently forgot about this shit when he testified before Congress that there was "no other way" to get at the phone's info.

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Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:19 pm**

This has never been about the FBI needing access to data. This has been about the FBI needing everyone to shut up and comply with their demands as a display of power.

If you aren't kissing their ass then you must be a criminal. That sort of thing.

Posted: **Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:27 pm**

FBI got the data

Posted: **Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:55 pm**

The move comes one week after federal officials revealed a third party had come forward and "demonstrated" a "possible method" to cracking into a locked iPhone, prompting the U.S. government to postpone a court hearing scheduled for last Tuesday.

One of those ass sucking bootlickers mentioned above.

Posted: **Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:42 pm**

"Encryption is meant to be difficult, it is meant to be scrambled," online safety expert Robert Siciliano of Intel Security told ABC News. "However, we are dealing with computer science -- and science of any kind can be reverse engineered. If it can be built by putting together various technology, it can also be taken apart and its roots exposed."

Well, no, to put it bluntly. But that's beyond the level of security 99% of OSs are built for. There are, however, virtually ironclad ways of achieving mathematically perfect secrecy.

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:46 pm**

So it begins.

Law enforcement officials in Arkansas may be getting an assist from the FBI to help unlock an iPhone and an iPod belonging two teenage murder suspects, days after federal officials said they successfully cracked an iPhone belonging to one of the San Bernardino shooters and no longer needed Apple's help.

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:25 pm**

Oh, this reminds me of something i was wondering.

If it is illegal to break any encryption... DMCA? Why can the FBI do it?

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:44 pm**

Because laws don't apply to the government or the rich. They only exist to keep the populace in line. Duh.

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:46 pm**

As soon as I posted I thought, "They probably got some judge to say it was ok just this one time."

I hope APple sues anyway.

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:55 pm**

More likely they just went to one of the myriad of judges that will sign anything the FBI puts in front of them without actually reading it. Warrants are a complete joke anymore.

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:07 pm**

GORDON wrote:Oh, this reminds me of something i was wondering.

If it is illegal to break any encryption... DMCA? Why can the FBI do it?

When feds or cops break into a phone, usually there's a law that says it's their property, which is nine-tenths of shit right there. DMCA probably doesn't apply to non-copyrighted materials, especially if it's evidence. Breaking an encryption scheme in and of itself, as far as I know, isn't illegal. Otherwise research on the subject would be ground to a half.

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Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:14 pm**

If they've done it by altering the OS to do so (the thing they were demanding Apple do for them) then it would be a DMCA violation for improper use of the hardware. It would technically be a form of jailbreaking which - absurdly - is illegal.

Posted: **Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:26 pm**

Altering the OS code? I doubt it. I do bet Apple has a security flaw that's a combo of hardware and software hacking they don't know about. They're either:

1) obtaining the passcode directly and entering it using reverse engineering or
2) somehow bypassing the self-destruct mechanism or
3) sidestepping the normal verification process entirely

#1 might be possible, depending on a bajillion factors in Apple's encryption methods. Maintaining good security is bitch because you only need one small flaw to torpedo everything. If there is incentive, I promise multiple someones WILL find it and eventually one of them will be a tool who sells or capitalizes on the secret.

#2 and #3 would need some hardware help.

EDIT: I suppose someone could have used social engineering to guess the passcode with a high degree of confidence, but that's a long, long shot.

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Posted: **Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:13 pm**

[url=http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/gri ... ily-photos
/ar-BBrdl6V]Shit, we'll just unlock[/url] phones if you feel bad now.

A grieving Italian father has written a personal letter to Apple chief executive Tim Cook pleading with him to unblock his dead son's iPhone so he can access the precious photos saved inside. Leonardo Fabbretti's 13-year-old adopted son passed away in September 2015 after suffering from bone cancer.
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"No one should have a key that turns a billion locks," Cook once said in an interview. "It shouldn't exist." Fabbaretti said that Cellebrite offered to try to open Dama's phone free of charge.

Posted: **Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:08 pm**

[url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/04/07/fbi-director-says-method-for-unlocking-san-bernardino-iphone-only-works-on-narrow-slice-of -devices/]"Even though we bought[/url] our way into the last phone, we still need to be able to unlock your shit whenever and wherever we want. Fuck you, citizens, and have a nice day while we unnecessarily invade your privacy on a whim."

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Posted: **Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:59 pm**

Overpaid, bloated bureaucratic cocksuckers in D.C. already trying to stack the deck in their favour.

The leaked 9-page bill is the most current draft of the proposal, a source familiar with the language said.

It would give judges broad authority to order tech companies to hand over data in “an intelligible format” or provide “technical assistance” to access locked data. It does not spell out what form the data must take or under what circumstances a company would be forced to help.

It also does not create specific penalties for noncompliance.

In a joint statement, the authors of the bill, Senators Richard Burr and Dianne Feinstein, said they were still working with stakeholders to finalize the bill, which has repeatedly been delayed.

“The underlying goal is simple: when there's a court order to render technical assistance to law enforcement or provide decrypted information, that court order is carried out,” they said. “No individual or company is above the law.”

"Unless the magic word 'terrorism' is uttered, then there is no law we're above, you fucking lowly peons."
You'll remember Dianne Feinstein as the old communist bitch that makes the Alien Queen seem cerebral and well-spoken.

A White House spokesman told reporters Thursday the administration had not decided whether to support the measure, as it is still in a draft stage.

Translation: we're going to lame duck that motherfucker into law if it gets past Congress.

Everyone who votes for that thing deserves to rot in hell.

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Posted: **Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:54 pm**

I just noticed for the first time that the head in Malcolm's avatar is moving. Has it always been that way?

Posted: **Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:25 pm**

TheCatt wrote:I just noticed for the first time that the head in Malcolm's avatar is moving. Has it always been that way?

Yep

Posted: **Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:53 pm**

TheCatt wrote:
Malcolm wrote:Turns out the FBI might be full of second-rate shit programmers. Wow, who'd imagine the gov't falling behind the private sector?
An outside party came forward Sunday and showed investigators a way to circumvent the iPhone security features that had previously flummoxed the FBI’s computer experts, federal authorities said Monday.
I hope it involved "password1."
I think the story here is:

FBI: Give us access.
Apple: No.
FBI: Oh look, we're going to publicize that your shit isn't secure anyway.

FBI used a zero day attack

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