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Electric Car Thread
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:12 pm
by GORDON
Was thinking about it, and I realized that in the 15 months I've had this car, I haven't put a penny into it, aside from my garage-gas-station that costs me about $3 of electricity every day that I do my 70 mile city commute.
Nissan Leaf rules, all others drool.
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:33 pm
by TheCatt
Electric cars require. Much less maintenance... until the battery needs replacing.
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:50 am
by GORDON
correction: my 12v battery died on me about a month ago. Forgot about that. For some reason the Leaf has a regular car battery that starts everything up when you push the "on" button. SO, at four years, that was pretty much end-of-life, anyway. Knew it was coming. So I have spent more than zero dollars on it, if we're being honest.
But it's super nice having zero gasoline and oil change costs.
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:06 pm
by TheCatt
Tesla sued cuz kid died in a crash
Ummm.
The father of an 18-year-old Florida teen killed when his speeding Tesla slammed into a wall and caught fire is suing the company, saying the crash should have been "entirely survivable."
Police say Barrett Riley and his 18-year-old friend Edgar Monserrat died when Riley lost control of his father's car at 116 mph (187 kph) in May 2018. Another friend was thrown from the car and survived.
Yeah, that's a no.
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:26 pm
by GORDON
Oy vey.
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:55 am
by Vince
Grief can make one unreasonable.
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:59 pm
by TheCatt
TheCatt wrote: Porsche Taycan Turbo vs Tesla S specs
So the Tesla is just over half price of the Porsche? For more mileage, faster acceleration, and some self-driving?
Hard to get excited about the Taycan at those #s. Although, I bet the finishing + driving is better.
Taycan 4S, cheaper than the Turbos, at $103-$110.
The 4S will be available with two battery sizes. The standard 4S starts at $103,800 and comes with a 79.2 kWh battery pack and a pair of electric motors that produce 429 horsepower (320 kW). With the launch control engaged, the horsepower jumps to 522.
Customers who opt for the performance battery plus version of the 4S will shell out at least $110,380 for a vehicle with a 93.4 kWh battery and dual electric motors that can produce up to 563 hp (420 kW).
Both of the 4S models have a top speed of 155 miles per hour and can travel from 0 to 60 mph in 3.8 seconds.
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:55 pm
by Leisher
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:52 am
by GORDON
Not a good idea. I'd use it.
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:43 am
by TheCatt
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:33 pm
by Leisher
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:36 pm
by TheCatt
1. Yes - Although #2 would help solve this. If I can charge in 10 minutes, with convenient options, distance matters less.
2. Infrastructure is the key.
3. Cost is a barrier, but I'd like to see comparisons involving total cost of ownership since maintenance costs are lower (until that battery has to be replaced)
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:42 pm
by Leisher
I think he forgot about battery disposal too. Isn't that an issue?
How much maintenance do electric cars need? Oil changes? Tire rotation (I assume the same)? Spark plugs? Point being, is this going to completely shut down instant oil change places and most mechanics?
Those instant oil change places should get smart and immediately start putting in charging stations. "Charge up and get a car wash for $10!"
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:48 pm
by TheCatt
Well, there's no oil and no spark plugs, so....
Tires, indeed
Tesloop has incurred a combined maintenance cost of roughly $19,000 or about $0.05/mile. This cost breaks down to $6,700 for general vehicle repairs and $12,200 for regularly scheduled maintenance. The Model S’ full service record is available here. The record includes comparable estimated costs of running the service with a Lincoln Town Car instead of a Model S or Mercedes GLS class instead of a Model X. Tesloop estimates that a Lincoln Town Car or Mercedes GLS class’ combined maintenance cost to be around $88,500 ($0.22/mile) and $98,900 ($0.25/mile) respectively over 400,000 miles.
Details of the maintenace
Item SUM of Amount
12v Battery Replacement $171
General Maintenance $2,176
Rear Bumper Repairs $1,000
Replace - Front/Rear Brake Pads/Rotors $1,759
Replaced Headlights $2,800
Tire Replacement $4,674
Wheel Alignment $200
Grand Total $12,782
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:14 pm
by Vince
Do we have any estimates as to how much the electric capacity would have to increase to accommodate electric cars going mainstream?
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:11 am
by GORDON
I wouldn't guess much. It's just a 220v outlet, like everyone running an electric dryer.
I think solar panels would become standard on new house builds, for cars. It wouldn't take much sunlight to charge a car every day.
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:39 am
by TheCatt
Vince wrote: Do we have any estimates as to how much the electric capacity would have to increase to accommodate electric cars going mainstream?
20-50%, plus upgrades in transmission and transformers, etc due to usage pattern changes. But the car change isn't going to happen overnight.
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:37 am
by Vince
TheCatt wrote:20-50%, plus upgrades in transmission and transformers, etc due to usage pattern changes. But the car change isn't going to happen overnight.
Wow! If it went up 50%, that would be pretty significant.
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:40 am
by TheCatt
Vince wrote: TheCatt wrote:20-50%, plus upgrades in transmission and transformers, etc due to usage pattern changes. But the car change isn't going to happen overnight.
Wow! If it went up 50%, that would be pretty significant.
Varies by state/region, etc. so those are regional estimates. I work in the power grid, and it's something we've been talking about for years. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out in the next 10 years or so.
Electric Car Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:45 pm
by GORDON
Apparently Ohio is going to ding me an extra $200 this year, for registration.
https://www.13abc.com/content/news/Owne ... 21011.html
I'm not paying gas tax so they're going to pretend it's my little compact car tearing up the roads, and not semis.
