"There was a nude scene with *the actress* but her butt was waaaay too big in proportion to her body. It was gross."
~ movie review on caucasion-review.com.
Batman Vs Superman
Why DC/WB moved BvS away from Cap 3, and why that whole 2 big movies on one day thing happened in the first place:
When WB/DC announced that they would be releasing their Batman v Superman on May 6, 2016, many fans were taken aback. That date, after all, had been "claimed" by Marvel Studios. While they hadn't announced which film would open on that date, the Disney-owned giant had made it clear that day would be the kickoff of Phase 3. By declaring that BvS would open that day, WB/DC basically threw down the gauntlet. They were willing to bet that Marvel would either change dates, or have something completely inferior to their title planned for the day- like a lesser known character along the lines of Ant-Man or Doctor Strange.
Then a few key things happened.
Captain America: The Winter Soldier came out and was a major hit for Marvel
Marvel announced that Captain America 3 would be their May 6, 2016 film
Guardians of The Galaxy did insane business- despite no A-list stars, a director unknown to the mainstream, and a cast of characters that were widely unknown to the masses. The success of GoTG showed that Marvel, as just a brand name, had established a strong enough bond with pop culture that it could open a movie with a talking raccoon and still use it to print money
Suddenly, this game of chicken didn't seem so wise. It was clear Marvel had their game plan and would not be budging, so WB/DC shifted Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice to March 25, 2016. A smart move by the studio, and a win for everybody- especially the fans.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
1. It is possible I would have seen them both on the same day anyway. I do crazy shit like that sometimes.
2. DC's a bunch of bitches, aren't they. And now I know that the movie they are releasing is seen as an inferior product... maybe now I'll wait to hear some reviews, first.
2. DC's a bunch of bitches, aren't they. And now I know that the movie they are releasing is seen as an inferior product... maybe now I'll wait to hear some reviews, first.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
WB doesn't think superheroes are funny.
Really? A "no jokes" policy?
I get it if you were trying to reverse your previous track record of mocking your own properties (Ex: Batman and Robin), but no humor?
Humor kind of worked well so far for Marvel...
And that's always been DC's problem. Their characters are beyond reproach. Meanwhile, Cap's a fossil with out of date thinking, Thor's an overgrown frat boy, Stark's a paranoid drunk control freak, Spider-Man has abandonment issues, Wolverine's a cold blooded killer, etc. Hell, even Marvel's villain are more gray area than actual "we're the bad guys with bad thoughts" villain types.
Really? A "no jokes" policy?
I get it if you were trying to reverse your previous track record of mocking your own properties (Ex: Batman and Robin), but no humor?
Humor kind of worked well so far for Marvel...
"DC treats their superhero characters more like gods," whereas Marvel, the opposition, has characters that are more human-like and flawed.
And that's always been DC's problem. Their characters are beyond reproach. Meanwhile, Cap's a fossil with out of date thinking, Thor's an overgrown frat boy, Stark's a paranoid drunk control freak, Spider-Man has abandonment issues, Wolverine's a cold blooded killer, etc. Hell, even Marvel's villain are more gray area than actual "we're the bad guys with bad thoughts" villain types.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
All the Marvel movies have had humor.
From subtle (Cap slipping Fury the $10 when he gets on the bridge of the Helicarrier) to gut busting (Hulk tossing around Loki).
That Hulk/Loki scene drew laughter that was so loud in the theater that I couldn't hear any lines for the next 40 seconds.
Warner Brothers: "Superheroes should be seen as serious, so you won't find humor in our movies. However, if you'd like to see two people making out over the smoldering ruins of a city where at least a hundred thousand people just died, that's totally in our wheelhouse."
From subtle (Cap slipping Fury the $10 when he gets on the bridge of the Helicarrier) to gut busting (Hulk tossing around Loki).
That Hulk/Loki scene drew laughter that was so loud in the theater that I couldn't hear any lines for the next 40 seconds.
Warner Brothers: "Superheroes should be seen as serious, so you won't find humor in our movies. However, if you'd like to see two people making out over the smoldering ruins of a city where at least a hundred thousand people just died, that's totally in our wheelhouse."
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
A still from 2007's I Am Legend:
How did that happen?
How did that happen?
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
I don't know if I buy that rumor. Not that they had as much humor, but I can think of a couple of lines from Batman Begins that were funny. Alfred was pretty light hearted and the "Does it come in black" line with the tumbler. They're more serious, but I think the Batman reboot set the tone and it was to be more based in what the real world looks like. I suspect that was more in response (by Nolan) to what the late 80's and 90s franchise became more than what Marvel was doing.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
You lost me. I'm not sure what rumor you're responding to...?
Also, Nolan's Batman reboot, while successful, wasn't as successful as people remember.
Heath Ledger's death and performance as Joker made that series far, far more successful than it would have been otherwise.
Also, Nolan's Batman reboot, while successful, wasn't as successful as people remember.
Heath Ledger's death and performance as Joker made that series far, far more successful than it would have been otherwise.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Sorry. Realized after I'd posted that it was to an older post in the thread. The rumor about no humor.Leisher wrote:You lost me. I'm not sure what rumor you're responding to...?
It was pretty successful
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Not as successful as you remember.
Again:
Does The Dark Knight make $500 million if Ledger doesn't die? Probably not.
Again:
Heath Ledger's death and performance as Joker made that series far, far more successful than it would have been otherwise.
Does The Dark Knight make $500 million if Ledger doesn't die? Probably not.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
I agree with Catt. Batman Begins was good. Dark Knight was about twice as good (which neatly lines up with the box office take). Heath Ledger did an awesome job and they were praising his work in that movie even before he died.
And I think a lot of why Begins didn't do better was because people were turned off by the previous Batman movies. I have no proof of this, but I suspect a lot of people when to theaters to see The Dark Knight after renting or seeing Begins on TV and realizing it wasn't the crap they'd been given in the last few Batman movies.
And I think a lot of why Begins didn't do better was because people were turned off by the previous Batman movies. I have no proof of this, but I suspect a lot of people when to theaters to see The Dark Knight after renting or seeing Begins on TV and realizing it wasn't the crap they'd been given in the last few Batman movies.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Batman Begins was good.
It was ok. It looked Oscar-worthy compared to the Joel Schu-loser movies that came immediately prior.
Dark Knight was about twice as good
Eh. It was a bit better.
Heath Ledger did an awesome job
No. He did a better than average job.
And I think a lot of why Begins didn't do better was because people were turned off by the previous Batman movies.
Nolan's Batman trilogy didn't have a Batman feel to it. Didn't have a comics feel to it. Just three films that happened to have a character which shared a lot with the one I know from print and ink. Same for Bane, same for Catwoman. I'd also like to point out the Dark Knight Rises wasn't that good.
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