They went to one of the toy manufacturers and got the agreement for the toy before they'd green-light the comic. It was just a vehicle for the royalties off the toy. Turned out the comic was more interesting than the toy, though.
Edit: Reading this is looks like Parker Brothers went to Marvel wanting the comic to coincide with the release of the toy. Kind of interesting read.
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:56 pm
by TheCatt
Vince wrote:
TheCatt wrote: Wait, how was ROM whorey?
They went to one of the toy manufacturers and got the agreement for the toy before they'd green-light the comic. It was just a vehicle for the royalties off the toy. Turned out the comic was more interesting than the toy, though.
Edit: Reading this is looks like Parker Brothers went to Marvel wanting the comic to coincide with the release of the toy. Kind of interesting read.
Ah, had no memory of the toy. Just the comic.
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:58 pm
by Vince
TheCatt wrote:
Ah, had no memory of the toy. Just the comic.
Definitely you should read the article. The toy was kind of crappy. Well... maybe not so much "crappy" as not planned as any sort of line at all.
Although, to be fair, Sony clearly never would have made a that much as their Marvel films have sucked (except Homecoming which Marvel produced).
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:25 pm
by thibodeaux
Marvel clearly has a vision and story arc, which helps. That said...I wonder would the MCU have taken off like it did if they hadn't cast Downey. I mean, I never even saw The Hulk with Norton, although to be fair is Hulk the boringest character ever? Anyway. Iron Man was a smash in large part to Downey, which if that hadn't happened, I wonder if they would have even bothered to keep going.
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:03 am
by Leisher
Downey definitely made Iron Man, but the real man behind the MCU is Kevin Feige. He's the guy who had the vision and has guided this whole thing.
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:47 am
by thibodeaux
Leisher wrote: Downey definitely made Iron Man, but the real man behind the MCU is Kevin Feige. He's the guy who had the vision and has guided this whole thing.
Yeah, I get that. But come on. I'm dying on this hill: RDj made the MCU successful.
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:01 am
by GORDON
I would agree, if IM had bombed, they wouldn't have built a franchise on failure.
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:21 am
by TheCatt
thibodeaux wrote:
Leisher wrote: Downey definitely made Iron Man, but the real man behind the MCU is Kevin Feige. He's the guy who had the vision and has guided this whole thing.
Yeah, I get that. But come on. I'm dying on this hill: RDj made the MCU successful.
So, really, Jon Favreau made MCU successful by casting Downey?
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:39 pm
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote:
thibodeaux wrote:
Leisher wrote: Downey definitely made Iron Man, but the real man behind the MCU is Kevin Feige. He's the guy who had the vision and has guided this whole thing.
Yeah, I get that. But come on. I'm dying on this hill: RDj made the MCU successful.
So, really, Jon Favreau made MCU successful by casting Downey?
Downey and Favreau made an excellent movie, but do either deserve the credit for the MCU? No. They deserve some, absolutely. However, I will die on the hill that Feige deserves the majority of the credit for the MCU, and Hollywood agrees with me. He's the guy who had the vision and is the one moving the pieces around the board.
Where I think Favreau and Downey deserve all the credit is...
Favreau for making a real Marvel comic book movie work. He treated it with respect and wasn't mocking the concept (like Tim Burton did with Batman). He made it about Iron Man, unlike Nolan's Batman films that also contained Batman...
Downey deserves all the credit for making Iron Man more than just a role. He made casting correctly important. Something WB/DC has yet to learn. He became Iron Man, and while he seemed to have some hesitation about it initially, it seems like as the years have gone on, he's now fully embraced being Iron Man. That attitude is rubbing off on his co-stars who also initially poo-pooed doing a role multiple times, but now don't ever want it to end.
while Krasinski has admitted that he’s open to portraying a superhero, and would be keen to see himself and Blunt taking on the roles of Mister Fantastic and the Invisible Woman in the inevitable Fantastic Four reboot.
This would be about $10B over what Disney is paying. There is a clause that if Fox backs out they have to pay Disney 1.5B, so the amount Disney would need to bump their bid is only 8.5B to match.
I don't begrudge Comcast for the move as they need assets, but if they win and hand Universal, who is desperate for IPs, the keys to the X-Men and the FF, they will become universally hated.