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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:21 pm
by GORDON
Troy wrote:Feel free to add me to your friends list... steam ID is ts60400 (someone quickly correct me if this isn't something that should be passed over open forums, pretty sure it's cool)
"Unable to find user ts60400."
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:30 pm
by GORDON
So far, without farming, I have 6 Heavy achievements. The "shoot $200,000 worth of ammo" one was easy... an engie set up a dispenser near a choke point, so I just stood there firing continuoulsy for about 4 minutes.
Also got Rasputin, which I mentioned.
Take 1k damage in a single life.
Kill 10 peeps in midair with ol' Painless
5 second teleport kill
and Vanguard Party, where you are the first peep on a control point
So yeah.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:32 pm
by Leisher
I will be on tonight after the rug rat is in bed.
Gordo, if you're on, go red for the backwater basin map and go heavy. I'll be your medic for the round. (Pyros kind of suck on that map.)
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:36 pm
by GORDON
Leisher wrote:Gordo, if you're on, go red for the backwater basin map and go heavy. I'll be your medic for the round. (Pyros kind of suck on that map.)
When on defense, for the opening of that map I love the Sniper. There are some good spots to just wreak havoc on people as they leave the spawn gates.
After (if) they take the first checkpoint the Heavy is good, though.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:38 pm
by Troy
Oh oops, wrong name.
steam id is : tasyellowX
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:42 pm
by GORDON
Troy wrote:Oh oops, wrong name.
steam id is : tasyellowX
Bad Horse just friended you.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:47 pm
by Leisher
I will friend you tonight Troy.
You'll have to friend Cakedaddy yourself though as he only plays once every summer.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:54 pm
by GORDON
Leisher wrote:I will friend you tonight Troy.
You'll have to friend Cakedaddy yourself though as he only plays once every summer.
Well, as far as we can tell. Until he jumps on again so we can see the trend... fact is, he might only be on once a year. Or once, ever. Just not enough data, yet.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:37 pm
by TPRJones
Leisher wrote:TPR, not sure what your hang up is about Steam, but Cakedaddy was the biggest anti-Steam guy on the planet and if he can adapt and use it (once a year apparently) then you can too.
When I pay for a game, I like to know that I'll be able to play it again in twenty years. I don't mind digital distribution - I always burn a copy for later - but can anyone guarantee that Steam will still be around in twenty years to verify my copy? Are there any promises that they won't suddenly decide for some arbitrary reason to deny me access to my software?
I don't trust it. If it has to call in to the home office every time I use it, I'm not interested.
EDIT: Well, unless it's dirt cheap. When it gets down to the price of a DVD rental then I'll try it without such considerations. But as long as it's the price of a box set of DVDs, I want some assurances that Steam so far can't provide.
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:46 pm
by Troy
The only games I usually play on steam are online, so require steam to play them as its the matchmaker... but then I decided I wanted to play Call of Duty 2 (single player WW2) , and bought it, and it was good.
Then time warner fucked up my internet the next day.
Didn't have any trouble when it told me it couldn't connect to the steam server(internet fucked) and that I had the option of starting in offline mode instead.
So I did, and played Call of Duty to my hearts content for a few days until time warner fixed me internet woes.
I got the game downloaded in under an hour btw, and it was very cheap.
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:52 pm
by GORDON
TPRJones wrote:EDIT: Well, unless it's dirt cheap. When it gets down to the price of a DVD rental then I'll try it without such considerations. But as long as it's the price of a box set of DVDs, I want some assurances that Steam so far can't provide.
If you can find the Orange Box for sub $20, that is dirt cheap for everything that is in it. I was right about their strategy... i snagged the OB at 20 because I started seeing the individual games in the OB on sale for $20 each. Not sure what the price of the OB is doing now.
If you bought the individual games on the shelf today at Best Buy, they would cost....
about $110.
Half Life 2 - $30
HL2: Episode 1 - $20
HL2:Ep2 - $20
Team Fortress 2 - $20
Portal - $20
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:05 pm
by TPRJones
Troy wrote:Didn't have any trouble when it told me it couldn't connect to the steam server(internet fucked) and that I had the option of starting in offline mode instead.
You can do that? I was under the impression that it always had to call in before you could do anything with it.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:18 pm
by Leisher
$28.99 - A price I still believe is an absolute steal.
Keep in mind that HL2 is easily considered the best shooter ever. HL2:Ep1 and HL2:Ep2 are the exact same gameplay and storyline, with new enemies, weapons, locations, and one of the best "end boss" scenes I've ever seen. I'd go so far as to say that Valve is telling the best story ever told via a series of video games.
Portal is considered by many to be the greatest game ever made despite it only being 4 hours long. I've haven't heard hype like this in a long time and was shocked when it actually lived up to it.
TF2 is considered the best multi shooter on the market.
The Orange Box at the original retail price of $50 or whatever was a steal, let alone it being in the $20 to $30 range. That's why EA (the publisher) forced the move from the Orange Box to individual boxed copies of each game. A smart move to make some quick coin, but a long term bad move. They should've just accepted that they could've charged more and instead further marketed the hell out of the orange box. Subsequent sequels to all the games included would've sold that much better.
When I pay for a game, I like to know that I'll be able to play it again in twenty years. I don't mind digital distribution - I always burn a copy for later - but can anyone guarantee that Steam will still be around in twenty years to verify my copy? Are there any promises that they won't suddenly decide for some arbitrary reason to deny me access to my software?
This has all been covered before. There is no guarantee Steam will be around 20 years from now despite it being the #1 online distribution service. In fact, there is no guarantee that YOU will be around 20 years from now or the Earth itself. Valve has a guarantee posted somewhere (it might be with every game and on their site) specifying that if Steam ends, they will send out an update with codes releasing every game from it's obligation of needing the Steam servers.
So my advice to you is live in the now.
In terms of single player games, it doesn't "call home" every time you launch. It does for multi games, but since it's the matchmaking service and the update server, that's to be expected.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:25 pm
by GORDON
Plus I like it for the fact it has a built-in Instant Messenger service, that is usable from within the game. I don't use any IM programs any more, so it has made having a friend list easy, again. Just don't ever expect to see Cakedaddy online.
As for a Steam Con: I read recently that early in Steam's life there was a 3-day power outtage in... Seattle (?) that knocked Steam offline for several days. So, you know, in case of tsunami we'd not only have tens of thousand dead liberals, but we'd also possibly be off of TF2 for a while. So that would suck.
But really TRP, I'd say *I* was the biggest Steam opponent here, but I'm now sold on it. I feel I am getting far more product than the price would suggest, even if it may not be around forever.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:44 pm
by TPRJones
Okay, I've ordered The Orange Box. The fact that it doesn't call in every time you start it up makes it a bit more acceptable, and for $22 it's worth the risk.
Oh, and while I've never used Steam I have played through Portal. It is indeed very awesome.
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:47 pm
by TheCatt
TPRJones wrote:Okay, I've ordered The Orange Box. The fact that it doesn't call in every time you start it up makes it a bit more acceptable, and for $22 it's worth the risk.
Oh, and while I've never used Steam I have played through Portal. It is indeed very awesome.
$22?
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:16 pm
by TPRJones
At Circuit City it was. Now it's $25 today.
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:35 pm
by GORDON
Oh yeah, I got the Sandvitch last night. And out of the 5 times I tried to use it since, I actually survived once.
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:03 pm
by Leisher
I hear you fat bastards munching on those things all the time. However, you're right, as they're not for eating in the middle of battle.
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:42 pm
by GORDON
Nah, I move to the side, and get backstabbed by a spy while I am locked into the sammitch