Women screaming in horror/pain/rape is the new boobs on GoT.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:05 pm
by GORDON
This show is interesting. it fucks with you, psychologically.
Audiences tend to want to relate to the character that is most like them.... so you end up with Team... ummm... edward? vs. team werewiolf.... whoever those gay Twilight characters were. In GoT people root for Stannis or Danerys or Tyrion or Ned Stark or Robert Stark, or whoever they like. And every single person is either fucked or fucked up or dead or on their way to being dead. It is hard to get your head around the fact that you KNOW there isn't going to be a happy ending, but you still keep expecting a happy ending, and it is one gut-punch after another because you just don't see it coming.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:27 pm
by TPRJones
Team Tyrion 4 Life
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:59 pm
by TPRJones
I never liked Stannis. He's just as much of a bastard as I suspected. If we won the throne his reign would be a disaster.
EDIT: I'm starting to think Danerys might be too kind to be an effective ruler of Westeros. But the end of the episode might have trumped that. I just hope she remembers that while she has Immunity(Fire Damage) she probably doesn't also have Immunity(Fall Damage).
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:29 pm
by GORDON
Obviously the smartest thing she has ever done was taking on Tyrion, trumping even how she gained her army, and that was impressive.
If she can survive long enough on the dragon to utilize Tyrion, without too much bad luck, she will conquer the world. That is beyond the scope of the books, though, and no one seems to get a happy ending in this fukkin show.
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:26 am
by TPRJones
Well eventually she has to end up fighting the white walkers while riding a dragon. It is the Song of Fire and Ice after all, and if the Fire in that refers instead to Melisandre that would just be a huge let down.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:35 am
by GORDON
Maybe the Song refers to Jon Snow, who is rumored to be half Targaryan (the fire) and his position at the wall makes him... maybe he'll get temporarily killed and return as a White Walker but still a good guy. So he is the song.
I'll shut up now.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:41 am
by TPRJones
Sure, there's plenty of possibilities. But all of them that don't involve someone riding a dragon and flaming the white walkers with it would be a disappointment.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:56 am
by GORDON
This is the spoiler thread, right? Quick check: ok.
So I think the White Walkers have a plan, and they will be crossing the Wall, somehow, with ease, when they are ready. If the Wall was going to stop them there'd be no story at all, nor even a need for the Night's Watch. The WW's just added about 10k new humans to their army at Hardhome, which for all we know just quadrupled its size. Whatever.
So that being the case, only the Night's Watch and Stannis are taking that threat seriously. Stannis already lost a chunk of his army of sellswords to desertion, and lost all of his food and provisions to Ninja Ramsey, and while he may take Winterfell now that he burned his daughter alive, it probably won't be bloodless. Winterfell only has provisions for a "6 month siege" (according to Roose) which isn't going to last nearly as long if trying to feed an army, and the Night's Watch only has enough food stocked to feed themselves for a few years, so Davos aint getting shit on his "make him go away so he doesn't try to stop me from burning the 10 yo girl alive" mission, and all predictions point to a 4+ year Winter. The White Walkers are going to have an easy time of things. Stannis doesn't have any more daughters to kill as an "Easy Button."
So, with the previous 5 years in Westeros being defined by wars and burnt crops and Littlefinger making sure everyone is paying attention to themselves instead of the situation overall, the continent isn't even half ready for a long Winter and a war against ice zombies. Not even a quarter ready. Even if, as the army of White Walkers strolls down the King's Road, and is at the gates of King's Landing, Dany comes swooping out from the ocean with 3 dragons and burns/melts all the WWs where they stand, everyone is still going to starve to death years before the Winter ends.
Fortunately for us, GRRM doesn't seem to have any sense of continuity or scale, and a good number of these unfixable logistical problems probably won't even come up.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:03 am
by TPRJones
I guess it depends on how well preserved the meat is on that army of the dead. The ones that were raised right after death, at least. Some of the rest are clearly too ripe to be nourishing.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:08 am
by GORDON
There's the old question, "Do the walkers bring the winter, or do the winters bring the walkers?"
I think I fall on the "The Walkers bring the cold." We've seen evidence of this in the show... things frost over/get all stormy every time a WW shows up. This would explain the fucked up seasons overall: The planet would all be warm and temperate, but every few years the WWs wake up and shit gets cold for a couple years until they go back to sleep. That being the case, Winter would end, in my above scenario, as soon as Dany swoops in on her dragons burning all the WWs. We'd have nice imagery of Dany swooping by killing WWs, then the trees start budding. Then Tyrion poisons her because it turns out he was bad all the time and playin everybody.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:43 pm
by GORDON
Am I the only one who wonders how Tyrion manages to go up and down that pyramid every day?
