Cool, so the gays should have the freedom to shop anywhere the fuck they want for a cake?
If you want to give people the most freedom, then 75% of the population will be dead in a month.
EDIT: It'd be nice if the Vatican followed that philosophy when they wrote down the draconian policy for checking out documents from their archives.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
I was reading a gun control thread in another forum this morning, and someone mentioned slippery slope arguments, and how one law leads to another, and it leads to the government having more control over the decisions you make, and "that's just how liberals like it," and what occurred to me is this:
Some people take to slavery easier than others.
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Malcolm wrote:If you want to give people the most freedom, then 75% of the population will be dead in a month.
I disagree with this. The cities would eat themselves, but we country folk will have about 7 minutes of smacking the local teenagers around, then everything will be fine.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
I was reading a gun control thread in another forum this morning, and someone mentioned slippery slope arguments, and how one law leads to another, and it leads to the government having more control over the decisions you make, and "that's just how liberals like it," and what occurred to me is this:
Some people take to slavery easier than others.
That is very true. Only about 20% of the Jews were willing to leave Egypt (and slavery) with Moses.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Malcolm wrote:If you want to give people the most freedom, then 75% of the population will be dead in a month.
I disagree with this. The cities would eat themselves, but we country folk will have about 7 minutes of smacking the local teenagers around, then everything will be fine.
Overconfidence.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Malcolm wrote:If you want to give people the most freedom, then 75% of the population will be dead in a month.
I disagree with this. The cities would eat themselves, but we country folk will have about 7 minutes of smacking the local teenagers around, then everything will be fine.
Overconfidence.
Two or three decent men with guns would be all it takes to organize the peeps who want nothing more than to live their lives without being bothered.
edit - In a small town where you aren't already critical-mass with people inclined to be gang bangers.
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
I tend to agree w/ Gordo. Plus people in the more rural areas are much more used to taking care of things themselves. City peeps tend to be like that commercial where the people are on the escalator that stops and they're all calling for help and trying to reassure each other not to panic that help would be coming soon.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Vince wrote:I tend to agree w/ Gordo. Plus people in the more rural areas are much more used to taking care of things themselves. City peeps tend to be like that commercial where the people are on the escalator that stops and they're all calling for help and trying to reassure each other not to panic that help would be coming soon.
All those rural farmer dudes out in the Midwest who go apeshit whenever someone threatens to take away their ag subsidies?
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
In rural areas community also tends to actually mean the people that live around you rather than the guys you raid with in WoW. Visiting with my dad this weekend, I was struck by how many of his neighbors' phone numbers he had in his cell phone. I barely know one family in my neighborhood, much less have their number. I think that will be another key factor in the survival of the folks in the smaller communities.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Has begun closing accounts of people accused of discrimination.
A GoFundMe page for a different Christian-owned business, Sweet Cakes by Melissa in Oregon, was yanked down by GFM because there are discrimination charges pending against the owner and it’s GFM’s policy not to raise money “in defense of formal charges of heinous crimes, including violent, hateful, or sexual acts.” Politely refusing to cater a gay wedding is, evidently, now a “heinous crime.” But that raised a question: If charity for Sweet Cakes was verboten, why wasn’t it also verboten for Barronelle Stutzman, the Christian florist from Washington who’s also facing discrimination charges for declining to provide the flowers for a longtime gay customer’s marriage ceremony? With help from Dana Loesch, the GoFundMe page for Stutzman had apparently already reached six figures. And now suddenly it’s gone, likely the next victim in GFM’s left-appeasing policy of treating discrimination allegations about a religious business owner’s objection to gay marriage as too heinous for a respectable business to tolerate.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
GORDON wrote:I think the market is now ripe for a gofundme alternative called "Go Fund Yourself" that actively goes after the people gofundme drops.
South park beat you to it.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Has begun closing accounts of people accused of discrimination.
This sort of shit is what I was talking about in my rant earlier in this chain.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Has begun closing accounts of people accused of discrimination.
This sort of shit is what I was talking about in my rant earlier in this chain.
Whoa. Are you discriminating against GoFundMe.com's right to do biz with who they want?
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Vince wrote:Either it's okay or it isn't. When you have two sets of rules for different people is what's historically led to insurrections.
It's the same rules for everyone. If you want to operate a biz, you must follow the state's rules. If you don't like them, move to another state or get your own. If you want to use GoFundMe to raise cash, you have to follow their rules. If you don't like them, get your own server, your own DNS, your own web pages.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Vince wrote:Either it's okay or it isn't. When you have two sets of rules for different people is what's historically led to insurrections.
It's the same rules for everyone. If you want to operate a biz, you must follow the state's rules. If you don't like them, move to another state or get your own. If you want to use GoFundMe to raise cash, you have to follow their rules. If you don't like them, get your own server, your own DNS, your own web pages.
Why does gofundme get to make their own rules, but the bakery doesn't?
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Vince wrote:Either it's okay or it isn't. When you have two sets of rules for different people is what's historically led to insurrections.
It's the same rules for everyone. If you want to operate a biz, you must follow the state's rules. If you don't like them, move to another state or get your own. If you want to use GoFundMe to raise cash, you have to follow their rules. If you don't like them, get your own server, your own DNS, your own web pages.
Why does gofundme get to make their own rules, but the bakery doesn't?
Because GoFundMe isn't operating in the state of Oregon, where a biz may not discriminate against customers because of the sexual preference. If GoFundMe was HQ'd in a place that prohibited discrimination based on your legal status, then they'd be doing something illegal, much like the bakers are.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."