Net Neutrality

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GORDON wrote:According to this, a lot of really smart people say Net Neutrality is very bad. Also, a lot of very smart people say Net Neutrality is very good.

http://yro.slashdot.org/story....y-order

I don't think anyone has a clue how this is going to shake out.
True. But I really can't think of any situation the federal government's injected themselves in that they've made better. Not in my lifetime, anyway.
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Long distance telephone service. When they first broke up AT&T it was definitely good for the consumers at first.

That didn't last of course, because government never lets go even once the job is done. But it's still better than it was before.
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TPRJones wrote:Long distance telephone service. When they first broke up AT&T it was definitely good for the consumers at first.
Although, government is what created that problem to begin with.
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Exactly right Catt. Long distance phone service got better because of DEregulation. They were REMOVING themselves from the situation to a certain degree.
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AT&T fires off a warning shot prior to the actual lawsuit.
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FCC dude suggests radical overhaul of the entire cable industry.
More competition would be better
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ISPs try another bullshit legal argument.
"If broadband providers provided only pure transmission and not information processing, as the FCC now claims, the primitive and limited form of 'access' broadband customers would receive would be unrecognizable to consumers," the ISPs also wrote. "They would be required, for example, to know the IP address of every website they visit. But, because Domain Name Service ('DNS') is part of Internet access, consumers can visit any website without knowing its IP address and thereafter 'click through' links on that website to other websites."

Eat a dick.

AT&T, CenturyLink, CTIA, and USTelecom have claimed that the FCC’s net neutrality order violates their First and Fifth Amendment rights. But not all of the petitioners are making the Constitutional argument, and yesterday’s joint brief filed by all of them leaves it out.

We'll talk about their rights after they talk about having regional monopolies and non-competition agreements.




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Ruling.
The 2-1 court ruling Tuesday forces Internet providers such as Verizon and Comcast to obey federal regulations that ban the blocking or slowing of Internet traffic to consumers. The regulations from the Federal Communications Commission also forbid carriers from selectively speeding up websites that agree to pay the providers a fee — a tactic critics have said could unfairly tilt the commercial playing field against startups and innovators who may not be able to afford it.
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Well, that appellate court was ALWAYS going to rule 2-1, that's how it always rules (it feels) on politically divisive issues, always siding with the government.
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“When they say XYZ service is exempt from your data cap, we’ve seen that it changes consumer behavior,” said Josh Stager, Policy Counsel at the Open Technology Institute, told ABC News. “Consumers are going to gravitate to the one that doesn’t count.”
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Unfortunately, the door has been opened for this. Time for Nintendo to start supporting PACs and making other political donations.

Thank goodness people with no faith in the free market stepped in to fix things.
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This has nothing to do with net neutrality. As long as they aren't changing the speeds or favoring one data stream over another then net neutrality is still in place. Now if they start prioritizing Pokemon Go packets over others then there's a net neutrality issue.
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Senate voted today to allow ISPs to sell or share your internet browsing history without your permission.

Fun new world we live in. I fear this is the tip of the iceberg as far as the end of Net Neutrality.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... vertisers/
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Saw that. Not a fan.

I really wish we had a government that worked for us.
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I wish we had competitive ISP markets so that then we could say "Fuck you" to any ISP that was selling our data and we could move on.
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I've used Zenmate before to get a cheap Brazilian NFL sub by bouncing various places. It's just slower, and a bit annoying because it requires more work.

What would using Tor do better?
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Leisher wrote: Anyone using this?
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