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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:31 pm
by 71-1085092892
Leisher wrote:It also opens up the possibilities of more crossovers.
Such as?
Just saw it, and none come to mind.
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:55 pm
by Paul
Leisher wrote:It also opens up the possibilities of more crossovers. Maybe DC and Marvel could do a crossover on the big screen instead of just in comics?
Not likely. Warner Borthers has some sort of contract with D.C., so if it happened they'd have to agree too. I heard that Warner Brothers just pissed off D.C. by casting Jack Black as the Green Lantern. There's nothing D.C. can do about it.
Marvel and D.C. have no reason to combine characters. A movie with Spider-Man and Batman won't make twice as much money as a movie with just one of the characters. Why work with the competition for a piece of a slighty larger pie, when you can have all of a slightly smaller pie?
A comic book with Spider-Man and Batman, however, will sell ten times as many copies. People who don't usually buy Spider-Man or Batman comics will get copies.
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:27 pm
by 71-1085092892
Oh, I noticed the Jurrassic Park... I'm not sure if "tribute" is an appropriate word, but the one scene reminded me of the other.
What was giving me wood was predator vision and targetting modes... as some of you know, I always prefered playing predator in our AvP2 multi sessions. Game was pretty damned exact with the movies.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:56 pm
by thibodeaux
Was the guy with the smart-gun gay?
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:57 pm
by 71-1085092892
thibodeaux wrote:Was the guy with the smart-gun gay?
Hehehehe.
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:01 pm
by Malcolm
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:37 pm
by Zetleft
Despite the negative press I'm a fan and I was fully prepared to watch this movie until I read this.
Basically states the studio made them turn the movie into PG-13 just 3 weeks before the release date. Cut scenes, other fx scenes where not finished in time so left out of the film. They will be making a rated R DVD with all the missing scenes so I'm not bothering with the sliced up version.
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:52 pm
by 71-1085092892
Zetleft wrote:They will be making a rated R DVD with all the missing scenes so I'm not bothering with the sliced up version.
Good info.
Yeah, now that you mention it, the flick was fairly sanitized.
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:50 pm
by Leisher
Basically states the studio made them turn the movie into PG-13 just 3 weeks before the release date. Cut scenes, other fx scenes where not finished in time so left out of the film. They will be making a rated R DVD with all the missing scenes so I'm not bothering with the sliced up version.
Glad I saw your post. I was planning on seeing it this weekend, now I'll wait until the DVD.
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:43 pm
by Paul
I was planning on seeing it Memorial Day weekend. I might have to skip it now and wait for the "good" version.
Should I wait, or is it worth watching the "weak" version to get the full theatrical effect? For example, watching LOTR in theatres was well worth it, despite them coming out with a better, extended version on DVD.
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 7:41 pm
by 71-1085092892
Well, I don't regret seeing it. YMMV.
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:25 pm
by GORDON
Spoiler hread here.
Leisher's epic "Why AvP sucked" thread here.
Just watched the unrated version on BD.... Best Buy had both AvP flicks for sale for like $10 for both.
This is the first time I saw it since the movie theater. I didn't notice (remember) anything that was added to make it "unrated..." maybe there were some blood splashes or something that were not in the movie so it could get its PG-13. I am pretty much desensitized to aliens putting their secondary mandibles through peeps's foreheads, so who knows.
This movie kind of sucks, 10 years later. The shifting pyramid just seems silly. The one dude has a theory about "the Aztecs used the metric system... so every 10 minutes the pyramid will change." Because, of course, the Aztecs knew that minutes lasted 60 seconds. And they also knew what a "second" was.
Now: I think this was the first movie to really introduce the Predators as an honorbound, warrior culture... ie, the Klingons. Yes, I know Predator 2 suggested some of this, but really all that was was a "oh, you won hand to hand combat with one of us. Here's a prize" then they left, and everything since then has been fanboy fill-in-the-blanks. Yes, I know there have been hundreds of pages of comics, but I haven't read them and therefor they do not exist.
But in this flick we have a coming-of-age ceremony with rules and boundaries, the introduction of alien tribes with the special markings that get explored further in Predators, a warrior code with the predator deciding to ally with the warrior woman (Ripley 2) and marking her as such, and again, like with Danny Glover, at the end you see a hundred predators that could have stepped in at any time to defeat the queen, but did not. They were waiting to see how it would play out. And then they gave Ripley 2 that weapon for the gg.
So anyway, this was the film that put all of this stuff we now take for granted... the predators being the honorable hunters... to the big screen.
Except for that time that the predator stripped his weapons and armor to fight Arnold Schwarzenegger on equal terms like ten years earlier. Ignore that.
One thing I didn't like was that the predator in AvP must have known it had been impregnated, but didn't take appropriate steps. Bad predator. No honor for you.